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THR's FY2026 Q3 call is best read as a thesis-quality check, not a transcript recap. The upside case is that AI and compute-heavy infrastructure demand are becoming real drivers of customer activity. The key investor question is whether that activity converts into durable revenue, royalties, margins, and cash flow rather than remaining a strong-sounding demand story.

Framework #1 asks what management may know now that the market may not fully recognize for 6-24 months. For THR, the possible information gradient is whether current demand, backlog, customer activity, or AI/data-center engagement is an early signal of durable conversion rather than a one-quarter narrative. The transcript still needs follow-through in future quarters before that can be treated as proven.

The business engine appears to be demand conversion into revenue at acceptable incremental margins; the fallback needs management's KPIs and historical conversion data to grade it more precisely.

  • Management centered the story on AI, compute, or data-center demand, which is the key thesis variable to verify in future quarters.
  • Backlog and demand visibility were important to the quarter's credibility.
  • Profitability and margin durability should be treated as quality-of-revenue checks, not just headline metrics.
  • Customer renewal and new-logo activity are the clearest checks on whether demand is broadening.
  • Management's strongest emphasis appears to be around demand momentum and AI/compute-related opportunity; the useful investor question is whether that enthusiasm is backed by conversion and customer economics.

The tone reads constructive but still needs investor skepticism. Management appears to have enough operating evidence to discuss momentum, but the call only becomes high-quality if the numbers support conversion, margins, cash flow, and customer breadth. Local fallback reason: model analysis failed during on-demand transcript rendering: Earnings call analyzer failed with status 403..

  • No clear dodged analyst question was detected by the local fallback; manual review should still check whether Q&A answers quantified conversion, margins, and guidance.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

Competitive position looks potentially improving, but not proven. Customer activity and AI/compute exposure suggest the company may be in the right demand pools; the missing proof is market-share data, pricing power, win/loss detail, and retention economics.

  • Key figure to verify: Our third quarter revenues were up 10% from last year, which combined with our solid margin execution resulted in a 12% increase in adjusted EBITDA.
  • Key figure to verify: Our third quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was just over 24%, which brings our trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA margin to nearly 23%, illustrating the strong earnings potential of our business.
  • Key figure to verify: Orders in the third quarter increased by 14% year over year, resulting in a book-to-bill ratio of approximately 1.1 times, with our total bid pipeline up 8% at quarter end, with nearly 80% of these opportunities coming from our diversified end markets.
  • Key figure to verify: Large project orders in the quarter were up approximately 60% year-over-year, driven by LNG project activity, midstream gas processing, and a large sustainable aviation fuels project in Asia, Much of this activity is tied to the value chain around natural gas for both power generation and LNG export facilities, as well as continued momentum in renewables in the eastern hemisphere.
  • Key figure to verify: While early in what appears to be a large CapEx cycle, our pipeline of opportunities in this sector has now grown to $180 million up 58% year-over-year with over 60% of these opportunities in the U.S.
  • The quarter appears to be moving from story to evidence: operating momentum is showing up in revenue, royalties, or backlog rather than only in management narrative.
  • Customer activity looks healthier than a one-quarter spike because the transcript points to both retention/renewal work and new-account activity.
  • AI and data-center exposure look strategically relevant rather than cosmetic, because management ties demand to compute-heavy end markets instead of treating it as a generic buzzword.
  • Profitability is a quality signal here, but the investment value depends on whether margins can hold as mix, hiring, and customer concentration evolve.
  • The main open question is conversion: AI or data-center engagement has to turn into recurring royalties, cash flow, and repeatable design wins before it deserves full credit in valuation.
  • Backlog lowers some demand uncertainty, but investors still need timing, cancellation risk, concentration, and conversion economics before treating it as de-risked revenue.
  • Margin strength is not itself a risk; the risk is whether that margin level is sustainable if revenue mix, investment spend, or pricing changes.
  • There is enough downside language in the transcript to require follow-up on execution, timing, or disclosure quality rather than reading the quarter as fully clean.

The data-center angle appears investable but still needs sizing. The call connects the company to AI or compute-heavy infrastructure demand, which is directionally positive, but the thesis should depend on how much of that activity becomes durable revenue, royalties, and cash conversion rather than on thematic exposure alone.

  • How much of the AI or data-center engagement converts into recurring royalties or repeat revenue within the next four quarters?
  • What portion of backlog is cancellable, delayed, concentrated, or dependent on a small number of customers?
  • Can current margin levels persist as mix, headcount, and product investment change?
  • Did management quantify cash conversion and operating leverage, or only highlight revenue and demand?
  • Are customer wins broad enough to imply share gain rather than a few isolated projects?

FY2026 Q3 earnings call transcript

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NYSE:THR Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 10/9/2026 Operator | Conference Operator: Greetings and welcome to the Thurmond Group Holdings Third Quarter Fiscal 2026 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Yvonne Salem, Vice President, FP&A, and IR. Thank you.

You may begin. Yvonne Salem | Vice President, FP&A, and IR

Good morning, and thank you for joining Thermal Group's Third Quarter Fiscal 2026 Results Conference Call. Leading the call today are CEO Bruce Thames, Chief Financial Officer John Schott, and Chief Operating Officer Tom Sarofsky. Earlier this morning, we issued an earnings press release, which has been filed with the SEC on form 8K, and is also available on the investor relations section of our website. Additionally, the slides for this conference call can be found in our IR website under news and events, IR calendar earnings conference call, Q3, 2026. During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We have reconciled those items to the most comfortable GAAP measures in the tables at the end of the earnings press release. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for measures of financial performance reported in accordance with GAAP. I would like to remind you that during this call we might make certain forward-looking statements regarding our company. Please refer to our annual report and most recently quarterly report filed with the SEC for more information regarding our forward-looking statements, including the risks and uncertainties that could impact our future results. Our actual results might differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. and we undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments, or otherwise, except as might be required by law. Today's call will begin with remarks from our CEO, Bruce Thames, who will provide a review of our recent business performance, including an update on our strategic initiatives. Following Bruce, our Chief Operating Officer, Tom Sarofsky, will share an update on our progress and opportunities in the data center market and medium voltage heaters, which are two key components of our organic growth plans going forward. After Tom, our CFO, Jan Schott, will provide a review of our third quarter financial results. Bruce will then wrap up our prepared remarks with an update on our business outlook. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Yvonne, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call today. I'll begin my commentary with our third quarter highlights, which you can find on slide four. I'm exceptionally proud to announce that we achieved record-breaking results in the third quarter, delivering the highest revenue, profitability, and bookings in our company's history. These outstanding outcomes are a testament to our unwavering commitment to executing our strategic initiatives and to the dedication and excellence demonstrated by our entire Thermon team across the globe. Our strategic actions have positioned us well to capitalize on significant secular trends that are reshaping the industrial landscape, including the growth of data centers, increasing demand for power generation, the global shift towards decarbonization, and accelerating electrification. We believe that our recent booking strength and pipeline growth illustrate improving macro conditions coupled with renewed capital project momentum that are reinforced by strong customer relationships, all supporting a positive outlook for the remainder of the fiscal year with momentum continuing into 2027. Now turning to our quarterly results in more detail. Our third quarter revenues were up 10% from last year, which combined with our solid margin execution resulted in a 12% increase in adjusted EBITDA. Our third quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was just over 24%, which brings our trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA margin to nearly 23%, illustrating the strong earnings potential of our business. We remain committed to our Thermon business system initiatives and our margin priorities, and we're very pleased by our recent profitability conversion. While I'm encouraged by our third quarter operating results, I'm most excited about the strong order trends and the building momentum we're now seeing in our business. Orders in the third quarter increased by 14% year over year, resulting in a book-to-bill ratio of approximately 1.1 times, with our total bid pipeline up 8% at quarter end, with nearly 80% of these opportunities coming from our diversified end markets. Large project orders in the quarter were up approximately 60% year-over-year, driven by LNG project activity, midstream gas processing, and a large sustainable aviation fuels project in Asia, Much of this activity is tied to the value chain around natural gas for both power generation and LNG export facilities, as well as continued momentum in renewables in the eastern hemisphere. While these orders help grow our installed base, the execution timelines are more protracted than our flow business and will begin to convert in our fiscal 27th. The power sector is another area where we also believe Thermon is well positioned with offerings ranging from emissions monitoring solutions with our tubing bundle products to temperature management with our Genesis heat tracing control systems to auxiliary boilers for conventional and nuclear power generation. While early in what appears to be a large CapEx cycle, our pipeline of opportunities in this sector has now grown to $180 million up 58% year-over-year with over 60% of these opportunities in the U.S. market. Another area of emerging growth in the U.S. is in the reshoring of manufacturing, where customers are restarting shuttered facilities or expanding production in existing facilities across pharmaceuticals, chemicals, steel, and other industries. Last quarter, I highlighted that we received our first order for our new Poseidon liquid load bank solution. I'm pleased to report that we delivered these first units during the third quarter, and more importantly, we continue to see bookings and extremely strong quoting activity for our data center products. Tom Swarovski, our COO, will provide a more detailed update on the data center market later on this call. Another important driver during the quarter was the continued rebound in our large project business for the second consecutive quarter. As we've discussed on recent calls, our large capex order rates were improving, which led us to ramp up our engineering capacity to handle the increased project workload, including the launch of our new global engineering center in Mexico earlier this year. The increase in our engineering team has enabled us to move through the design phase on several large projects, which has translated to improve financial results in our large project business with a third quarter CapEx revenues up 37% versus the third quarter of last year. Based on our strong third quarter results, Combined with the building momentum and new orders and backlog growth, we're once again raising our guidance for fiscal 2026, which I will detail in my closing remarks. I'd like to now turn the call over to Tom Swarovski, our Chief Operating Officer, who will provide a more detailed update on the data center market and medium voltage heaters. Tom?

Tom Sarofsky | Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Bruce, and good morning to everyone. Moving on to slide six, I'd like to provide an update on our liquid load bank solutions for the data center market, which has quickly become a meaningful growth opportunity for Thermon. As we've discussed on prior calls, the recent shift to liquid-cooled data centers driven by investment in artificial intelligence, or AI, has created a rapidly accelerating demand for liquid load banks to validate critical cooling systems and power infrastructure. Thermon has moved aggressively to position the company to benefit from this trend in both the short term and long term. As Bruce highlighted, we shipped the first 20 units of our newest design liquid load bank solutions and also began installation and commissioning during the quarter. And the momentum for this product continues to grow. It is important to note that we moved from initial development to shipping units in just six months, highlighting the ingenuity, responsiveness, and agility of our team. Quoting activity remains robust as our quote log has doubled sequentially to $60 million. We continue to expect a significant ramp in orders for our liquid load bank solutions and we are currently expanding production to support what we believe will be a multi-year growth opportunity. Another exciting opportunity for Thermon is our participation in the medium voltage heaters market. Medium voltage heaters are heaters that look like and function like traditional process heaters, but operate at significantly higher voltages. This creates a large and growing market for these high performance heaters that operate at higher efficiencies, higher power densities, a smaller footprint, have lower installation costs, and less auxiliary equipment. Thermon's medium voltage heater pipeline has expanded to over $150 million, benefiting from our global electrification trends and the superior nature of our product. Our sales and marketing activities for these heaters are also an extension of the efforts of our current commercial teams in existing industries with existing skill sets and with existing customers allowing us to move quickly to capture market share. These heaters also benefit from the secular tailwinds and the macroeconomic trends regarding decarbonization and electrification in industrial heating. Aside from the previous previously mentioned features and benefits, these electric heaters can perform at the highest levels of efficiency and have no emissions, where a combustion-based heater would operate at lower efficiencies and is not emissions-free. It is also worth noting that, from a competitive perspective, there are significant barriers to entry into the medium voltage heater market. Although this is well within Thermon's strike zone of expertise in heat transfer and thermodynamics, this is a capability we have developed over a number of years with our deep and extensive engineering talent. These heaters come with international certifications and approvals that require exhaustive testing and compliance reviews. Quite frankly, these medium voltage heaters are difficult to engineer and even harder to manufacture. Thurmond is a leader in this space, and we are on our front foot ahead of a very, very short list of competitors that have even attempted to participate in this space. We've secured our third medium voltage heater order, which increases our backlog for this product to over $11 million. We are currently quoting opportunities and selling manufacturing slots for these heaters into our FY27 and FY28 fiscal years. Last, we are also scaling our manufacturing processes and leveraging our global manufacturing footprint to increase capacity for these heaters. This technology is well within our strengths and capabilities, and we are utilizing our global engineering and operations team to meet the growing customer demand for these products. With that update on the exciting products of liquid load banks and medium voltage heaters, I'll now turn it over to Jan for a detailed review of our third quarter results. Jan?

John Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone. I'll walk through our third quarter financial performance, followed by updates on working capital, cash flow, and our balance sheet and liquidity. Moving to slide seven, Revenue for the quarter was $147.3 million, a year-over-year increase of 10%. The growth this quarter reflects more favorable spending patterns, including continued improvements in large project spending by customers, ongoing momentum in electrification and decarbonization in Europe, and benefits from pricing. With the FATI acquisition reaching its one-year anniversary this past October, all of the growth this quarter is now considered organic. Our OpEx revenues were $122 million during the third quarter, an increase of 5% compared to last year, driven by increased spending from our installed base and pricing. OpEx revenues represented 83% of total revenues for the quarter. Large project revenue was $25.4 million for the third quarter, up 37% from last year. As Bruce mentioned earlier, momentum in our major project markets is now flowing through to our results, with several projects progressing from engineering into execution this quarter. Our engineering teams remain fully utilized, and the active bid pipeline gives us confidence that the strength will continue into the new calendar year. Our gross profit was 68.7 million during the third quarter, an increase of 11% compared to last year. The increase in gross profit was the result of operating leverage from increased volumes, price, tariff mitigation, and productivity gains enabled by our Thermon business systems. As a result, Gross margins were 46.6% for the third quarter, up from 46.2% last year. We were pleased to see our gross margin performance continue this quarter, given the higher mix of large project revenue. We also saw this trend last quarter, which is encouraging. Adjusted EBITDA was 35.6 million for the quarter, up from 31.8 million last year, an increase of 12 percent. The increase was driven by our solid revenue growth, sustained gross margin improvement, and disciplined cost management, partially offset by continued investments in growth initiatives and higher performance-based compensation. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 24.2 percent during the third quarter, up 50 basis points from last year. Gap earnings per share for the quarter was 55 cents, up modestly from 54 cents in the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share was 66 cents, up 18 percent from 56 cents last year. Third quarter orders grew 14% to $158.2 million compared to last year. As Bruce noted earlier, this included strong activity across LNG, midstream gas processing, and a major SAF project in Asia. Our book-to-bill ratio for the quarter was 1.1 times up from 1.0 times a year ago. Backlog increased 10%, driven by a positive book-to-bill for the quarter and favorable project timing, even as we delivered record revenue this quarter. Turning to performance by geography, U.S. lamb delivered a solid 10% year-over-year increase, driven by sustained demand across large capital projects and continued pricing discipline. Canada posted a 1% revenue increase, supported by heightened project activity. In EMEA, activity remained robust, with revenue increasing 37%. This growth reflects strong execution across our legacy business, as well as rising demand tied to electrification and decarbonization trends in Europe. Meanwhile, APAC delivered 9% revenue growth, supported by continued momentum in project activity. Turning to slide eight for an update on our balance sheet and liquidity. Working capital was $190 million at quarter end. Capital expenditures were $4.9 million for the quarter compared to $1.4 million last year, reflecting our investments to support growth initiatives, including our liquid load bank and medium voltage heater product lines. We generated $13.1 million of free cash flow in the third quarter, up from 8.4 million last year, reflecting healthy operating performance and moderated by growth-focused investments. Year-to-date free cash flows was 25.7 million, up from 23.9 million in the prior year period, highlighting continued discipline even as we invest to support growth. We did not repurchase shares in the third quarter, Cumulative repurchases since the beginning of fiscal 2025 stood at 36 million, 4% of our shares outstanding. We still have 38.5 million remaining under our existing authorization. We ended the quarter with net debt of 96.3 million and a net leverage ratio of 0.8 times. In summary, We continued our financial discipline during the third quarter and remained focused on maintaining a strong balance sheet. We have $141 million in total cash and available liquidity as a quarter end, providing us ample financial flexibility to execute on our balanced capital allocation strategy, which remains focused on driving growth, both organically and through strategic acquisitions, while balancing opportunistic share repurchases and debt reduction. With that, I will turn the call back over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jan. As we shared on this call, we were very pleased with our third quarter results and are encouraged by the continued momentum we're seeing across many of our end markets. This team has spent considerable time and energy over the past several years repositioning the business for growth, so it's very rewarding to see this hard work beginning to pay off. Based upon our strong results through the first three quarters of the year and the continued momentum in our business, we're raising our full year 2026 financial guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. As we detail on slide nine, our fiscal 2026 financial guidance calls for revenue in a range of $516 million to $526 million, representing 5% growth over prior year at the midpoint. We're raising adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $114 million to $120 million, representing 7% growth over prior year at the midpoint. Our guidance continues to assume that the current tariff structures remain in place and any future announcements do not have a notable positive or negative impact on input costs or customer sentiment and the improved business trends we've seen are sustained. Turning now to slide 10. We believe we're strategically positioned to benefit from several powerful macroeconomic drivers, including reshoring, electrification, decarbonization, power, and data centers. We're in an extremely strong financial position with more than sufficient financial flexibility to continue pursuing our strategic priorities, including the discipline allocation of capital, all with an ongoing focus on generating long-term value for our shareholders. That completes our prepared remarks. We're now ready for the question and answer portion of our call.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. And at this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. And your first question comes from Brian Drab with William Blair.

Please state your question. Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Congratulations on the great results. You know, I've been covering the company for a long time, and I know a lot of people have been expecting, you know, Thermon to put up results like this. And I usually don't take time to do this congratulating on the calls, but it's worth – I think it's deserving for sure.

John Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Brian.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

I was wondering – Yeah. Can you talk about the 46% plus gross margin that, you know, two quarters in a row, the sustainability of that? What is structurally changed if it has or, you know, and you're doing that in the face of improving large project activity where you typically see somewhat lower gross margins?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a great point, Brian. The mix is shifting towards more large projects. There's a number of things that are really driving the improved gross margins. You know, the Thermon business system, we've been able to systematically drive productivity and efficiency gains that are translating into bottom line results. I think That's something that's in place and will continue to drive going forward. Price has been another area where we've certainly gained some incremental margin in the marketplace. We also are seeing the benefit of operating leverage. And I would also note that when you look at the project mix we have today, it is largely design and supply with much less demand. what we call turnkey or additional content around field labor, around installation, or third-party materials that we would have, conduit, wire, switches, breakers, relays, and the like. So that all helps improve the margin profile of these projects. As we look at our backlog going forward, we still have a very significant backlog building around large projects that are heavily weighted towards design and supply. So those margins, I think, would be sustained. I would go on to say that typically our Q3 is always the highest gross margin just due to the mix around heating season and just operating leverage on the incremental volume. So having said that, when you look at our business on a seasonality basis, I think we can continue to drive similar margins going forward. The key here is understanding that Q3 is typically the peak and it'll fall off somewhat in Q4 and Q1 and then begin to rebuild in Q2 and Q3 of next year. So That's just the normal cadence of the margin profile of our business.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. And this shift to more design and supply versus projects with the significant labor content, is that something that was by design, like by your design, or is that more a function of trends in the overall market?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

It's a little of both. We've focused there particularly, but then there's also been a shift with some of the general contractors and also the EPCs to be able to bring more of that field labor and installation in-house. So it's been a bit of a mix of both.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. And then on the data center side, Just really good momentum there, clearly. Can you talk about how your conversations with the potential customers in the industry have evolved? Are you talking to the data center construction contractors, the HVAC contractors, the hyperscalers themselves, all of the above?

Tom Sarofsky | Chief Operating Officer

Yeah. Hey, Brian, this is Tom. Thanks again for the congratulations. Look, the answer to your question is all of the above. We've formed some relationships through our discovery process and design thinking of developing these projects. We did a lot of customer research and feedback before we launched the project and launched the products. We are forming relationships with, let's say, a rental companies out there that specifically rent equipment into this market. There's also a burdening group of companies that do nothing but commissioning of data centers and meet the testing around insurance and regulatory compliance. And then, as you said, we've also worked directly with end users. In some cases, they're installing these units and load banks permanently, and it'll become a fixture of their overall asset. So, look, the answer is we've worked with all types of customers and informed relationships through many different channels.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay, perfect. I'll pass it on for now and talk to you later.

Thank you. Operator | Conference Operator

Thanks, Brian. Thank you. And your next question comes from Justin Ages with CJS Securities.

Please state your question. Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

Hi, morning all.

Operator | Conference Operator

Good morning.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

Another question on the liquid load banks. In the past, you've mentioned, you know, the market size around 80, 90 million. Just wondering if your assumptions have changed there. And I know you gave some detail on the competitive landscape for the medium banks. voltage heaters, but any detail you can give us on the landscape for these liquid load banks would be helpful as well, please.

Tom Sarofsky | Chief Operating Officer

Hey, great question. We have not updated our management estimates of what we believe the market to be. I think we'll stay consistent for now with what we put in previous communications and what we've mentioned earlier. I will say the market is robust, but the most important thing is our quote log. has actually doubled, I believe, sequentially quarter over quarter. We're now at about $60 million. So we believe this will be both a short-term material impact on our potential FY27 results, and then also a longer-term multi-year opportunity. I think data centers is something that many different companies out there that are selling electrical and other types of products, we're still trying to get our arms around how how big this growth cycle is and how long it will last. But it's clearly very large and it's clearly multi-year.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

That's helpful. Thanks. And then on the CapEx guidance, you know, you said 2.5% to 3% this year. This quarter was 3.3% ahead of sales. Just wondering if these investments in these two new growth platforms, as we look, you know, peak into 27 and 28, if it's going to be a bit higher as you guys are, you know, ramping for growth there.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a great question. We are making more, you know, if you think about just in our over the last five years or more, our CapEx has probably averaged around two and a half percent. We've got these two opportunities, which are significant organic growth opportunities, and we are making investments to scale manufacturing. And so we're in the process of finalizing our plans for next year, but we would expect CapEx to be in probably closer to that 3% range next year and just investing for growth. in these two different platforms. And really that's to build capacity both in the Western hemisphere as well as in the Eastern hemisphere to grow and scale these products.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

That makes a lot of sense.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

All right.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

I appreciate you taking the question.

Thank you. Thank you. Operator | Conference Operator

Your next question comes from Aaron Spichalo with Craig Hallam Capital Group.

Please state your question. Aaron Spichalo | Analyst, Craig Hallam Capital Group

Yeah, good morning, Bruce, Jan, and Tom. Thanks for taking the questions. You know, maybe first for me on the medium voltage opportunity, you know, you talked about the pipeline and the backlog and, you know, scaling the manufacturing. Can you just kind of talk about how you see that progressing, you know, over the next couple years, given that pipeline and kind of how growth can look as you kind of scale manufacturing?

Tom Sarofsky | Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, no, thanks, Aaron. Great question. This is a very, very early stage of engagement with customers on the medium voltage. As I've said, we've taken three orders. We have worked down some of the backlog, but the existing backlog right now at the end of Q3 was $11 million. Again, just to repeat, quote pipeline on that is over $150 million today. This is another opportunity for us that we believe is both large and multi-year. We have begun the process of investment there, both on the CapEx and OpEx side, to increase capacity, again, both in the Western Hemisphere and then future investment in the Eastern Hemisphere, to be able to build these heaters and meet customer demand. This has been a tailwind for us. Again, the other thing to keep in mind, this has a very large competitive moat around it in terms of the capabilities to build these heaters. But it will certainly be something that is multi-year and have impact on not just FY27, but a material impact on years in the future.

Aaron Spichalo | Analyst, Craig Hallam Capital Group

All right. I appreciate that. And then You kind of called out LNG and midstream as nice growth drivers. Can you just talk a little bit more about how your offering fits in that market, where that business is today, and how you see that ramping moving forward?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so LNG, midstream, kind of thinking through those. What we're seeing is certainly the LNG export facilities particularly, we do quite a bit. in LNG liquefaction. And so we've, in the first quarter of this year, we had secured about five projects for LNG and those began to execute in our Q2 of this year and continued into our Q3. We also booked some additional LNG projects. When you think about our products, There's a number of different applications we have. Even the medium voltage heaters are used for natural gas regeneration, which and then our heat tracing products are used extensively just due to the colder temperatures and and the to freeze protect on a lot of different valves and piping. We also have immersion heater opportunities in various applications there. And then our tubing bundles are sold in there. So it's really a broad swath of our products for LNG. And then we think about moving upstream to increase production in natural gas. One of the areas where we do a lot of work is in midstream gas processing, particularly in fractionators. And so we've secured some orders in those areas as well with some nice projects emerging here, particularly in the U.S. around increased natural gas production and processing. And then all of that also ties to just the increased power demand. And the shift towards combined cycle power generation with some of the legislative changes that are increasing demand for natural gas as well. So all of those tie in pretty well and are demand drivers for our products and services.

Aaron Spichalo | Analyst, Craig Hallam Capital Group

That's great. Thanks for the caller and for taking the questions.

I'll turn it over. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you, and a reminder to the audience, to ask a question, make sure you press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star two. Once again, to ask a question, press star one on your phone's keypad. Your next question comes from John Bratz with Kansas City Capitol.

Please state your question. John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Good morning, everyone. Morning, John. Going back to gross margins, they've been very strong despite the higher capital capex revenues. And you talked a little bit about the reasons, but independent of those reasons, given the strength of the market, are you just seeing better margins in that business than maybe you had seen years ago, initial margins?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Our project margins are healthy. I would say, John, as I reflect back, they are not necessarily above what we've seen in large CapEx cycles. The company historically, I mean, if you go back to the 2013 timeframe, had enjoyed exceptional gross margins in project activity. when there was just a super cycle in the oil sands. So I would say we're not at those levels, but on a relative basis, our project margin profile has improved and the mix has had a big impact on that as well. So I think it's a little of both the mix and of design and supply as well as just the overall market conditions for pricing and the nature of the projects we're executing have both helped with price and gross margins.

John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Okay. All right. Thank you. The second question, the FAPI acquisition last year has been very successful. How do you see that going forward? What else are you doing to maybe improve the revenue outlook for that operation and the profitability? What's ahead for Fonty in 2027?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yes, great question. That business has performed exceptionally well. A few things to note. One is we continue our commercial efforts there in Europe and the Eastern Hemisphere, which have been quite successful. A lot of the CAPEX investments that we talked about, both Jan and the prepared remarks, as well as just questions I answered earlier, are related to scaling capacity there in Milan. We are building capacity for our medium voltage heaters there, and we'll begin to be completely vertically integrated and be able to produce those in Europe for Europe in the Eastern hemisphere. And that's, that's going to be a significant growth driver, you know, in, in less than 18 months, we've essentially doubled that business. We expect that to be, you know, to double that business over the next two to three years. And that would be, really serving the increased demand for electrification, as well as the market opportunity represented by medium voltage heaters. So that business, we would expect to continue to build and grow. And, you know, while as we look at that, our product portfolio, quite frankly, has historically had immersion heaters and the like, but having that manufacturing capacity there in Europe has really enabled and unlocked the next level of growth. So it's really been a great success story, really commercially and operationally.

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Thank you. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Diego. And thank you all for joining on the call today. We appreciate your interest in Thermon. And if we don't talk to you in the coming months, we look forward to providing an update on our full year financial results in the May timeframe. So thank you all for joining today.

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Research summary and source transcript

readyOct 9, 2026

THR's FY2026 Q2 call is best read as a thesis-quality check, not a transcript recap. The upside case is that AI and compute-heavy infrastructure demand are becoming real drivers of customer activity. The key investor question is whether that activity converts into durable revenue, royalties, margins, and cash flow rather than remaining a strong-sounding demand story.

Framework #1 asks what management may know now that the market may not fully recognize for 6-24 months. For THR, the possible information gradient is whether current demand, backlog, customer activity, or AI/data-center engagement is an early signal of durable conversion rather than a one-quarter narrative. The transcript still needs follow-through in future quarters before that can be treated as proven.

The business engine appears to be license/design-win activity that later converts into royalties, with valuation quality depending on renewal rates, backlog conversion, and margin durability.

  • Management centered the story on AI, compute, or data-center demand, which is the key thesis variable to verify in future quarters.
  • Backlog and demand visibility were important to the quarter's credibility.
  • Profitability and margin durability should be treated as quality-of-revenue checks, not just headline metrics.
  • Customer renewal and new-logo activity are the clearest checks on whether demand is broadening.
  • Management's strongest emphasis appears to be around demand momentum and AI/compute-related opportunity; the useful investor question is whether that enthusiasm is backed by conversion and customer economics.

The tone reads constructive but still needs investor skepticism. Management appears to have enough operating evidence to discuss momentum, but the call only becomes high-quality if the numbers support conversion, margins, cash flow, and customer breadth. Local fallback reason: model analysis failed during on-demand transcript rendering: Earnings call analyzer failed with status 403..

  • No clear dodged analyst question was detected by the local fallback; manual review should still check whether Q&A answers quantified conversion, margins, and guidance.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

Competitive position looks potentially improving, but not proven. Customer activity and AI/compute exposure suggest the company may be in the right demand pools; the missing proof is market-share data, pricing power, win/loss detail, and retention economics.

  • Key figure to verify: Our reported revenues were up 15% from last year, which combined with our strong margin execution and operating leverage resulted in a 29% increase in adjusted EBITDA.
  • Key figure to verify: These second quarter results, combined with a backlog that is up 17% year over year and improved visibility, position us well for the balance of the year.
  • Key figure to verify: On a trailing 12-month basis, our revenues and adjusted EBITDA have reached records of $509 million and $114.1 million, respectively.
  • Key figure to verify: Together, These actions enabled us to generate 23.2% adjusted EBITDA margins in the second quarter, with adjusted EBITDA margins growing to 22.4% on a trailing 12-month basis.
  • Key figure to verify: This is evident when looking at our total bid pipeline, which was up 11% at quarter end, with nearly 80% of the opportunities coming from our diversified end markets, including power generation, renewables, commercial, and data centers.
  • The quarter appears to be moving from story to evidence: operating momentum is showing up in revenue, royalties, or backlog rather than only in management narrative.
  • Customer activity looks healthier than a one-quarter spike because the transcript points to both retention/renewal work and new-account activity.
  • AI and data-center exposure look strategically relevant rather than cosmetic, because management ties demand to compute-heavy end markets instead of treating it as a generic buzzword.
  • Profitability is a quality signal here, but the investment value depends on whether margins can hold as mix, hiring, and customer concentration evolve.
  • The main open question is conversion: AI or data-center engagement has to turn into recurring royalties, cash flow, and repeatable design wins before it deserves full credit in valuation.
  • Backlog lowers some demand uncertainty, but investors still need timing, cancellation risk, concentration, and conversion economics before treating it as de-risked revenue.
  • Margin strength is not itself a risk; the risk is whether that margin level is sustainable if revenue mix, investment spend, or pricing changes.
  • There is enough downside language in the transcript to require follow-up on execution, timing, or disclosure quality rather than reading the quarter as fully clean.

The data-center angle appears investable but still needs sizing. The call connects the company to AI or compute-heavy infrastructure demand, which is directionally positive, but the thesis should depend on how much of that activity becomes durable revenue, royalties, and cash conversion rather than on thematic exposure alone.

  • How much of the AI or data-center engagement converts into recurring royalties or repeat revenue within the next four quarters?
  • What portion of backlog is cancellable, delayed, concentrated, or dependent on a small number of customers?
  • Can current margin levels persist as mix, headcount, and product investment change?
  • Did management quantify cash conversion and operating leverage, or only highlight revenue and demand?
  • Are customer wins broad enough to imply share gain rather than a few isolated projects?

FY2026 Q2 earnings call transcript

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NYSE:THR Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 10/9/2026 Operator | Conference Operator: Greetings and welcome to the Thermon Earnings Conference Call, Fiscal Year 2026, Quarter 2. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. And it is now my pleasure to introduce to you Yvonne Salem, Vice President of FPA and Investor Relations. Thank you, Yvonne.

You may begin. Yvonne Salem | Vice President of FP&A and Investor Relations

Good morning, and thank you for joining Thermon Group's second quarter fiscal 2026 results conference call. Leading the call today are CEO Bruce Thames, Chief Financial Officer Jan Schott, and Chief Operating Officer Tom Swarovski. Earlier this morning, we issued an earnings press release, which has been filed with the SEC on form 8K. And it's also available on the investor relations section of our website. Additionally, the slides for this conference call can be found in our IR website under news and events, IR, calendar earnings conference call, Q2, 2026. During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We have reconciled those items to the most comparable GAAP measures in the tables at the end of the earnings press release. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for measures of financial performance reported in accordance with GAAP. I would like to remind you that during this call, we might make certain forward-looking statements regarding our company. please refer to our annual report and most recently quarterly report filed with the SEC for more information regarding our forward-looking statements, including the risks and uncertainties that could impact our future results. Our actual results might differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information future developments, or otherwise, except as might be required by law. Today's call will begin with remarks from our CEO, Bruce Thames, who will provide a review of our recent business performance, including an update on our strategic initiatives. Following Bruce, our Chief Operating Officer, Tom Sarofsky, will share an update on our progress and opportunities in the data center market, which is a key component of our business diversification strategy. After Tom, our CFO, Jan Schott, will provide a financial update and review. Bruce will then wrap up our prepared remarks with an update on our business outlook. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'll turn it over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Yvonne, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call today. I'll begin my commentary with our second quarter highlights, which you can find on slide four. As we committed in our Q1 call, the Thermon team delivered exceptional second quarter results with solid incoming orders, strong revenue conversion, and robust profit capture that exceeded expectations across the board. Our reported revenues were up 15% from last year, which combined with our strong margin execution and operating leverage resulted in a 29% increase in adjusted EBITDA. These second quarter results, combined with a backlog that is up 17% year over year and improved visibility, position us well for the balance of the year. On a trailing 12-month basis, our revenues and adjusted EBITDA have reached records of $509 million and $114.1 million, respectively. We believe our performance reflects the strength of our strategy, the resilience of our business model, and the outstanding execution by our global team, despite a volatile macroeconomic backdrop. I'm incredibly proud of our team's ongoing efforts to execute our margin improvement initiatives, including tariff mitigation measures, demonstrating steady progress towards our longer term EBITDA margin objectives. Together, These actions enabled us to generate 23.2% adjusted EBITDA margins in the second quarter, with adjusted EBITDA margins growing to 22.4% on a trailing 12-month basis. While we've been pleased with the steady progress, additional opportunities to drive further EBITDA margin expansion remain. This quarter is illustrative of the earnings power of our business, and we remain committed to driving EBITDA margin expansion over the longer term. Our unwavering commitment to our strategic growth initiatives has us well positioned to benefit from a strengthening macro backdrop and several favorable secular demand trends, including reshoring, electrification, decarbonization, and rising power demand. This is evident when looking at our total bid pipeline, which was up 11% at quarter end, with nearly 80% of the opportunities coming from our diversified end markets, including power generation, renewables, commercial, and data centers. I'm also very excited to report that this update will include details of our first order for the new Poseidon Liquid Load Bank. We're seeing extremely strong quoting activity for our data center solutions and expect order activity to accelerate in the coming quarters. Tom Swarovski, our chief operating officer, will provide a more detailed update on the data center market later on this call. The team continued to demonstrate disciplined financial management during the second quarter, and we ended the period with net leverage at one times with total liquidity of 129 million. Our M&A pipeline remains active and we're excited by our strong capital position, which provides us with the capacity and flexibility to act decisively on opportunities to deploy capital in alignment with our strategic priorities. We're encouraged by the strengthening trends in our business and anticipate this momentum continuing into the third quarter. During the first half, we've established a new global engineering center in Mexico to handle the increased project workload driven by the backlog growth we experienced coming into this fiscal year. During the second quarter, we saw a 41% increase in large CapEx revenues driven by two large North American LNG projects as these moved through the design phase into execution. Based upon these factors, we are well positioned to deliver strong second half results and are pleased to raise our full year 2026 financial guidance, which I will cover in more detail in my closing remarks. Before I turn it over to Tom, I'd like to take some time to provide an update on our strategic growth initiatives, which are centered around our 3D strategy of decarbonization, digitization, and diversification shown here on slide five. We believe our focused commitments to our strategic pillars has us well positioned to benefit from several strong secular drivers to generate sustained organic growth moving forward. Turning now to slide six, I will begin with an update on our digitization opportunity. Since launching the Genesis Network, we've received extremely positive customer feedback with over 86,000 installed circuits, up from 58,000 at the end of fiscal 25. We're now beginning to leverage our digital technology capabilities across a broad spectrum of Thermon solutions, including commercial heat tracing, rail and transit, and data center product offering. Our customers need real-time operational awareness and analytics to more effectively manage their business and provide actionable insights to help unlock predictive maintenance, enhance performance, and energy efficiency. This differentiated hardware and software platform helps create value for customers, which drives growth and improves retention while delivering enhanced returns. Turning now to slide seven. I'd like to provide an update on an exciting area of growth in the decarbonization space represented by medium voltage heaters. The electrification megatrend is driving momentum to replace hydrocarbon-fired heating systems with electrical solutions, especially in Europe. Medium voltage heaters offer a compelling alternative with higher efficiency, zero emissions, lower initial capital costs, and lower maintenance expenses, all while providing a higher level of control. Our quantum medium voltage heater product line was launched in 2024, offering voltages from 3,600 volts to 7,200 volts. Our first two orders, totaling nearly 10 million, are now being produced for customers in the U.S. and the Middle East. This market is estimated to be growing at a 17% compounded annual growth rate to 263 million in 2030 with a very short list of competitors. Given Thermon's differentiated capabilities in heat transfer analysis and design, we are leveraging legacy customer relationships in the chemical, general industrial, oil and gas, and food and beverage in markets to grow share. We're seeing strong order momentum with a solid pipeline of high probability opportunities as we work to scale capacity in both North America and Europe. I would now like to turn the call over to Tom Swarovski, our newly appointed chief operating officer, who will provide an update on diversification into the data center market. Tom?

Tom Swarovski | Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Bruce, and good morning to everyone. Moving on to slide eight, I'm excited to share updates on a key end market that is now central to our overall business diversification strategy. As we've discussed on prior calls, the unprecedented investments in data centers driven by AI adoption represent a significant and long-term growth opportunity for Thermon. The recent shift to liquid-cooled data centers has created a rapidly accelerated demand for liquid load banks to validate critical cooling systems and power infrastructure. Thermon is uniquely positioned to capture this opportunity, leveraging our legacy solutions. Given the pace of this market, we are proud of how quickly our team has executed. In just four months from project kickoff, we completed prototype builds for our Poseidon and Pontus liquid load bank solutions, and customer demonstrations are already underway. The response has been outstanding. Our quote log now totals roughly $30 million and continues to grow, and we've secured our first order for 20 Poseidon units. Based on management estimates, the liquid load bank market is projected to grow at a 21% CAGR from $84 million in 2024 to $386 million by 2032. We are targeting a 20% to 25% market share within the next 24 to 36 months, and this early traction gives us confidence in achieving that goal. Customers are excited about our differentiated design, which offers clear advantages over our competitors, including compliance with the ASME pressure vessel code, Canada registration or CRN number for Canadian customers, an industry-leading power density or kilowatt to weight ratio, and our pursuit of UL and CUL product certification. combination of these features and benefits position Thermon well to emerge as the trusted partner for mission-critical data center applications. Beyond liquid load banks, remember that Thermon also has significant pull-through opportunities for our traditional product solutions in data center applications, including electric heat tracing, environmental heaters, immersion heaters, tubing bundles, and removable heat blankets. As data center growth accelerates, our commercial team is actively developing channels with owners and operators, HVAC contractors, commissioning firms, and rental houses to ensure Thermon is top of mind for these data center projects. Capitalizing on these opportunities in the data center market is a great example of our strategy in action, creating value for customers and shareholders through innovation and disciplined execution. We look forward to sharing more updates on this exciting growth opportunity in the quarters ahead. With that update, I'll turn it over to Jan for a detailed review of our second quarter results. Jan?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone. I will review financial results for the quarter, give an update on working capital and free cash flow, and conclude with comments on the balance sheet and liquidity. Moving to slide nine, Revenue for the quarter was $131.7 million, a year-over-year increase of 15%. The growth this quarter reflects more favorable spending patterns following tariff uncertainty, improved trends in large project revenues, and continued momentum from FATI. As expected, we also benefited from backlog conversion in the quarter stemming from previous supply chain disruptions and delayed projects. Excluding FATI, organic revenue grew 9% year over year. Our OPEX revenues were $107 million during the second quarter, an increase of 10% compared to last year. Excluding the contributions from FATI, OpEx revenues increased 3% from last year. OpEx revenues represented 81% of total revenues for the quarter. Large project revenue was $24.7 million during the second quarter, up 41% from last year. As we highlighted in last quarter's call, we saw several CapEx projects move from engineering to execution early in the second quarter. We expect this momentum to continue through the balance of the year. Our gross profit was $61 million during the second quarter, an increase of 20% compared to last year. Revenue growth, benefiting from pricing, combined with efficient execution and tariff mitigation measures contribute to the increase in gross profit. As a result, gross margin was 46% for the second quarter, up from 44% last year. The gross margin improvement was notable, given the higher mix of large project revenue for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $30.6 million for the quarter, up from $23.8 million last year, an increase of 29%. Volume growth gross margin improvement, and disciplined cost management partially offset continued investments in growth initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 23.2% during the second quarter, up from 20.8% last year. Gap earnings per share for the quarter was 45 cents, up 61% from 28 cents in the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share was 55 cents, up 45% from $0.38 last year. Second quarter orders were flat compared to the same period last year. On an organic basis, bookings declined 4% year over year, primarily driven by rail and transit following last year's significant surge. Momentum from FATI, where we continue to benefit from broader decarbonization trends, helped offset the organic decline. our overall book-to-bill ratio for the quarter was 1.0 times, down modestly from the prior year, consistent with timing variability in project awards. Backlog increased 17 percent on a reported basis and was up 4 percent organically due to the positive book-to-bill in the quarter combined with project timing. Turning to performance by geography, Year-over-year sales in U.S. lamb were up 8% compared to the prior year, driven by the ramp in several large CapEx projects. Revenue in Canada increased by 10%. Trends in EMEA remained strong, with revenue doubling, driven by solid performance in our organic business and contributions from FATI. In contrast, APAC experienced a 4% decline primarily due to ongoing uncertainty surrounding global trade policies with China. Moving to slide 10, for an update on our balance sheet and liquidity, working capital increased by 10% to $172 million at the end of the quarter, driven by FATI, higher inventory in preparation for fall heating season, and materials purchased in advance of tariffs. CapEx was 3.1 million during the quarter, compared to 1.9 million last year, which includes capital investments to support growth initiatives. Free cash flow during the quarter was 4.4 million, down from 6.7 million last year, as we invested working capital in inventory build, increased project activity, and the timing of shipments. We repurchased 6 million in shares during the second quarter, bringing our total shares repurchased since the start of fiscal 25 to 36 million. We currently have 39 million remaining under our current authorization as of the end of the quarter. We ended the quarter with net debt of 110 million and a net leverage ratio of 1.0 times. In summary, we continued our financial discipline during the second quarter and remain focused on maintaining a strong balance sheet. We have $129 million in total cash and available liquidity as of quarter end, providing us with ample financial flexibility to execute on our balanced capital allocation strategy, which remains focused on driving growth both organically and through strategic acquisitions while balancing opportunistic share repurchases and debt reduction. With that, I will turn the call back over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jan. We're obviously very encouraged by our second quarter results and the accelerating momentum across our markets, particularly the move of several large projects from engineering to execution. I'm proud of our team's disciplined execution on margin initiatives, including swift and effective actions to mitigate the impact of tariffs, combined with meaningful progress on our margin expansion efforts. With this momentum continuing into our fiscal third quarter, we're on track to deliver a strong second half to our fiscal year. Based upon the improving visibility in our business, we are pleased to raise our full year 2026 financial guidance for both revenue and adjusted EBITDA. As we detail on slide 11, our revised fiscal 2026 financial guidance calls for revenue in a range of 506 million to 527 million, representing 4% growth at the midpoint. We are raising adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of 112 million to 119 million, representing 6% growth at the midpoint. Our guidance continues to assume that the current tariff structures remain in place and any future announcements do not have a notable positive or negative impact on input costs or customer sentiment and the improved business trends we've seen are sustained. As I've outlined in the past, we remain highly focused on effectively managing the factors within our control. As you can see here on slide 12, we've made significant progress in our 3D growth strategy over the last five years, driving double-digit top-line growth with adjusted EBITDA growing at two times the rate, despite the contraction in large capex spending we experienced in fiscal 25. Turning now to slide 13. We believe we are strategically positioned to benefit from several powerful secular drivers, including reshoring, electrification, decarbonization, power and data centers. We're in an extremely strong financial position with more than sufficient financial flexibility to continue pursuing our strategic priorities, including the discipline allocation of capital, all with an ongoing focus on generating long-term value for our shareholders. That completes our prepared remarks. We are now ready for the question and answer portion of our call.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the queue. You may press star 2 to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. And the first question comes from the line of Justin Agis with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Justin Agis | Analyst, CJS Securities

Hi, morning, all. Good morning, Justin. I wanted to... You know, start on the large CapEx side, which was a nice surprise there. You know, in the prepared marks, you mentioned a couple LNG projects in North America and some momentum. Are you expecting more in the same business, more in LNG there? Or is there some other large CapEx projects that are kind of coming into focus?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

You know, yeah, Justin, last quarter we spoke about five projects we'd won in LNG, and certainly that's an area where we're seeing growth. And so we really focused when we came in the year on about – our backlog was up about 29% year over year. We really were – had a big backlog of work in engineering. Since we've established a global engineering center in Mexico and have staffed that up and that team has become productive. And what we're seeing there is those projects move from the design phase into execution. And we saw a couple of those move forward in the second quarter of this year, which led to our large CapEx revenues being up 41% year over year. So we do expect that flow to continue through the back half of the year. And as we look forward, our LNG pipeline is up 140% year over year when we look at those opportunities. So we are seeing some robust activity in the LNG market.

Justin Agis | Analyst, CJS Securities

That's very helpful. Thank you. And then shifting to the digitization, you know, Nice update. You guys hit that 50% growth that you laid out from the $58,000. Can you just give us a little more detail on what drives those efforts? Is it additional sales? Is it really the tip of the spear that differentiates your product from competitors?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so I think it's actually a few things. One is... It is the tip of the spear and it really helps differentiate us from the competition and improves our win rates so that we can grow the installed base. It also increases really the customer engagement throughout the lifecycle of the asset, which really helps us to capture those recurring revenues over time. So that's one of the big benefits that we see from the digitization effort. And the things we highlighted this quarter is we built this platform of both software and hardware, and we're now leveraging that across a wide range of Thermon solutions in the marketplace. So thus far, we've really introduced it into the industrial heat tracing in markets and product lines. It's also now being offered in our commercial line of heat tracing products, which We just launched in the last year with the Evo controller. And then we're also moving that into rail and transit for switch heating, particularly around our Hellfire units. And then our most recent launch of the Pontus and Poseidon load banks include these software and hardware tools in these units as well. So we really see this as being an enabler across all Operator | Conference Operator: a wide range of our solutions in the marketplace i appreciate the color thanks for taking the questions and the next question comes from the line of brian drab with william blair please proceed with your question hi good morning thanks for taking the questions um you know morning um Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair: gross margin is really solid in the quarter, obviously. But that was also, you know, in a quarter where you had the, you know, some of the CapEx projects stepping up. Can you talk about the, you know, that dynamic, maybe the margins in some of the bigger projects that are coming through and I mean, is everything else that you're doing offsetting maybe some lower margins of big projects, or do these projects have really good margins?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Hey, Brian, this is Jan. I'll take that question. Yeah, you're actually spot on. We did have, I guess, large projects, as you know, typically don't have As good a margins as our rest of our projects. And so we did have an unfavorable impact from those. But offsetting that this quarter were just we had increased volumes. So operating leverage from that. We also had, you know, our thermal on business systems productivity gains that we continue to see really help our margins, you know, really be solid. We had pricing that we saw flow through in the quarter. So we did see a benefit from that. Our tariff mitigation efforts are absolutely helping. And obviously those work in tandem with price and then new product introduction. And so I think, you know, you'll you know, you'll continue to see, you know, we're very focused on, I would say, the adjusted EBITDA margin. not so much the gross margin. As you saw, I think on slide three, our trailing 12 months gross margin is at 45%. And we did see, you know, higher this quarter, and it was really due to all those contributing factors. But we'll continue to, you know, push for continued expansion in our margins. And I think, you know, our aspirational goal is to get to 24%. The midpoint of our revised guidance is at 22.4%.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Got it. Okay. So in terms, I know you said to focus on EBITDA margin, but can I ask, you know, for the second half of the year, directionally, how to think about gross margin? And I guess the 22.4%, you know, it looks like for EBITDA margin, that means kind of sustaining this, at least sustaining this 23% level is probably the goal for the second half of the fiscal year?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, absolutely. I think that would be the goal. For gross margins, I think we'll continue to see strong margins. If you look at that historical rate, I think that should be instructive for what we would expect for the balance of the year.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Got it. And then maybe I'll just ask one more for now. It's great to see these larger projects releasing or moving to execution in the LNG industry. I think you said two moved to execution, but there's five in the pipeline. What is the potential timing for the other three to move to execution? And then secondly, are there other large projects in the funnel that might release outside of LNG?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Brian, I don't want to over-index on LNG. Those were the two larger projects we saw move forward this quarter. But if you look, and I would say more broadly, you know, our business was up about 15% year over year. Our diversity in markets were up roughly a 15% equivalent to an oil and gas was up similarly. So this is not an outsized move in oil and gas. And so I'd like to make sure we don't over index on that. So yes, there are a much broader range of projects that are beginning to move through execution and they include A whole host of other end markets, whether that's we do have some in the chemical petrochemical. We have some also in in power, certainly in other areas around, you know, our other end markets as well. So we are seeing it's more broad based move. And when we looked at last year, we did see a contraction in capex spending, and that was not in any given sector. It was fairly broad-based. And so the shift we're seeing now is also fairly broad-based when we see these projects coming back and moving to execution in the back half of the year.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Just really quickly, the data center opportunity and the medium voltage center opportunity are really new and buildings, how much of that impact the second quarter results, or is that, that's really more just, you know, coming in the next few quarters, really?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Right, that's a great question. There's zero impact in the second quarter, and these projects, this, we're just beginning to book orders, which Tom had noted in the prepared remarks, so we want our, secured our first order, which we're excited about. We've got a growing quote log that we feel we've got some high probability opportunities there. And then with media voltage, we've secured our first two orders. Those are being built as we speak. And we're working to scale capacity in both North America as well as in Europe. so we can grow that business going into our fiscal 27. So we're excited about both of those areas for growth and we're really well positioned with a differentiated product offering and a fairly narrow range of competitive, when we look at the competitive landscape, we're really well positioned.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

All right, congratulations on the great results.

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Brian. One clarifying thing I just want to point out is obviously the gross margin going forward will be dependent upon the mix. So that's kind of the, you know, if there were any headwinds, that would be it.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Understood.

Understood. Not surprising. Thanks. Yep. Operator | Conference Operator

And the final question comes from the line of Chip Moore with Roth. Please proceed with your question.

Chip Moore | Analyst, Roth

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats as well. Bruce, I guess, you know, I think we've addressed most of the key items. I guess for me, just maybe following up on your last comments around scaling capacity for medium-volt cheaters and the opportunity in data center, just how it seems like you have a lot of organic opportunity in front of you. How are you thinking about organic investments versus inorganic? And, you know, are you still tracking bolt-ons and just what are your priorities here?

Thanks. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Well, you know, Chip, great question. First and foremost, you know, our priority is investment in organic growth initiatives, and that has not and will not change. But we are fully funding that really through additions in our SG&A to be able to support the growth in that business, as well as through CapEx spending to enable that growth by scaling off capacity in our factories. So that is all embedded in our guidance and underway. As Janet noted in her prepared remarks, our balance sheet is in really great position, and we have a strong pipeline of opportunities that we are very focused on really looking for that next inorganic growth opportunity that will augment our 3D strategy going forward. And so we're very focused on really moving forward and looking at those inorganic growth opportunities. So really thinking about the business, driving that organic growth, which we've identified these couple of key areas, but also really the inorganic piece is going to be important to continue to drive growth in the business going forward.

Chip Moore | Analyst, Roth

Great. And maybe one last one that just popped in my head, Bruce. you know, the government shutdowns out there? Is there any, you know, risk of delays at all on projects or anything like that?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we really don't have any exposure to government contracts, so it's really a non-event for us. So it's really not a problem.

Chip Moore | Analyst, Roth

Great. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Operator | Conference Operator

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Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you all for joining us here today. We appreciate your interest in Thermon and looking forward to giving you an update for our third quarter in the January, February timeframe.

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Research summary and source transcript

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Thermon delivered resilient Q1 FY2026 performance with gross margin expansion despite a 5% revenue decline driven by temporary backlog conversion delays and tariff-related order softness. Management emphasized that delayed revenues are timing-related, not lost, and expect conversion in upcoming quarters. The company remains confident in its long-term growth outlook supported by a growing backlog (+27% YoY), expanding bid pipeline (+43% YoY), and strategic initiatives in data centers, rail/transit, and electrification via the FATI acquisition.

Management knows today that the delayed backlog conversion of approximately $10 million in Q1 revenue—attributable to supply chain challenges and a capital improvement project—is temporary and will be realized in Q2 and beyond, a fact not yet reflected in current market pricing which may still perceive the revenue decline as structural. Additionally, while the data center liquid load bank opportunity is nascent, management has internal visibility into early pipeline development and customer engagement that suggests a path to 20-25% market share in a growing $386M TAM by 2032, insights unlikely to be fully appreciated by the market for 6-24 months as the product launched only in late July 2026.

Revenue mix shift toward higher-margin OPEX sales, backlog conversion timing, and tariff mitigation effectiveness.

  • Gross margin improvement despite revenue decline
  • Temporary nature of Q1 backlog conversion delays
  • Growth in backlog and bid pipeline
  • Strategic focus on data centers, rail/transit, and electrification
  • Capital allocation discipline and share repurchases
  • Emerging opportunity in liquid load banks for data centers with 21% CAGR TAM growth to $386M by 2032
  • Strong order momentum in rail and transit with backlog doubling over 12 months
  • FATI acquisition as fastest-growing integration with backlog doubling in six months
  • Early pipeline development in liquid load banks post-July 28 launch
  • Confidence in achieving 20-25% market share in liquid load banks

Management exhibited a candid and credible tone, acknowledging near-term challenges like revenue delays and tariff headwinds while grounding optimism in specific, observable trends such as backlog growth, bid pipeline expansion, and early customer engagement in new verticals. Executives avoided overpromising on nascent opportunities like data centers, framing them as early-stage with clear timelines for revenue recognition, and consistently tied financial performance to actionable operational factors rather than vague market optimism.

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Thermon appears to be strengthening its competitive position through diversification into high-growth, adjacent markets like data center liquid load banks and European electrification, where it is leveraging existing thermal expertise. While traditional markets face near-term headwinds, the company is gaining share in emerging verticals and building defensible backlog in rail/transit and FATI-driven projects, suggesting a net improvement in competitive positioning over the next 12–24 months.

  • Q1 FY2026 revenue: $108.9M, down 5% YoY (organic: -11% ex-FATI)
  • Q1 FY2026 gross margin: 44.1%, up 30 bps YoY
  • Q1 FY2026 adjusted EBITDA: $21.2M, down 9% YoY
  • Backlog at quarter end: up 27% YoY, up 13% organically
  • Total bid pipeline: up 43% YoY at quarter end
  • Liquid load bank TAM: $84M in 2024, projected to $386M by 2032 (21% CAGR)
  • FATI acquisition contributed $6.8M to EMEA revenue in Q1
  • Share repurchases: $9.8M in Q1, $30M since start of FY2025
  • Conversion of $10M delayed Q1 backlog into revenue in Q2 and beyond
  • Ramp of liquid load bank sales from new Pontus and Poseidon products launched July 28, 2026
  • Continued backlog growth in rail/transit and FATI-driven electrification projects
  • Full effect of tariff mitigation pricing by end of Q2 2026
  • Deployment of capital to support capacity expansion in high-growth verticals
  • Revenue recovery dependent on timely conversion of delayed backlog
  • Ongoing tariff uncertainty could pressure margins beyond current mitigation
  • Organic order decline of 19% YoY reflects underlying demand softness
  • Data center liquid load bank opportunity remains early-stage with no current revenue
  • Integration and execution risk from active M&A pipeline

Thermon has identified an emerging, direct opportunity in the liquid load bank market driven by AI and liquid-cooled data center growth, with internal TAM estimates rising from $84M in 2024 to $386M by 2032 (21% CAGR). The company launched its Pontus and Poseidon liquid load banks on July 28, 2026, and is building a pipeline through direct engagement with hyperscalers, HVAC contractors, and rental channels. While still nascent and pre-revenue in Q1, management expects meaningful revenue generation in the back half of FY2026 and backlog building into FY2027, targeting 20-25% market share. This represents a speculative but strategically aligned growth vector tied to secular trends in electrification and decarbonization.

  • What portion of the $10M in delayed Q1 backlog has converted to revenue in July and August 2026?
  • What is the current sales pipeline and early order book for liquid load banks since the July 28 launch?
  • When does management expect the liquid load bank business to reach $10M in annual revenue?
  • How much of the FY2026 revenue guidance depends on backlog conversion versus new bookings?
  • What specific tariff scenarios are modeled in the unchanged FY2026 guidance, and at what point would they trigger a revision?
  • What is the organic growth rate ex-FATI and ex-tariff impacts in the bid pipeline?
  • How is capital being allocated between FATI integration, data center capacity, and share repurchases?
  • What is the win rate and sales cycle length for early liquid load bank opportunities?

FY2026 Q1 earnings call transcript

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NYSE:THR Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 6/6/2026 Operator | Conference Operator: Greetings and welcome to the Fairmont Earnings Conference Call Q1 Fiscal Year 2026. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If you require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce you to your host, Yvonne Salem, Vice President, FP&A, and IR. Thank you, Yvonne.

You may begin. Yvonne Salem | Vice President, FP&A and Investor Relations

Good morning, and thank you for joining Thurmond Group's first quarter fiscal 2026 results conference call. Leading the call today are CEO Bruce Thames and Chief Financial Officer Jan Schott. Earlier this morning, we issued an earnings press release, which has been filed with the SEC on Form 8K, and is also available on the investor relations section of our website. Additionally, the slides for this conference call can be found in our IR website under News and Events, IR Calendar, Earnings Conference Call, Q1, 2026. During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We have reconciled those items to the most comparable gap measures in the tables at the end of the earnings press release. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for measures of financial performance reported in accordance with GAAP. I would like to remind you that during this call, we might make certain forward-looking statements regarding our company. Please refer to our annual report and most recently quarterly report file with the SEC for more information regarding our forward-looking statements. including the risks and uncertainties that could impact our future results. Our actual results might differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments, or otherwise, except as it might be required by law. Today's call will begin with remarks from our CEO, Bruce Thames, who will provide a review of our recent business performance, including an update on our strategic initiatives, followed by a financial update and review from our CFO, Jan Schott. Bruce will then wrap up our prepared remarks with an update on our business outlook. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I will turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Well, thank you, Yvonne, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call today. At a high level, I'm pleased to report that the team delivered resilient performance in the first quarter as they navigated a complex and rapidly evolving market landscape. The outcomes we achieve underscore the strength of our long-term vision and strategic initiatives, which are intentionally focused on driving a higher quality, more profitable revenue mix. Combined with proactive tariff mitigation efforts, these actions enabled us to achieve gross margin improvement over prior year, affirming the effectiveness of our operational framework and the agility of our organization. However, the strength in our margin performance was offset by year-over-year decline in revenues that was largely attributable to temporary delays in backlog conversion and project execution timing. Factors we fully expect will translate into realized revenue in the upcoming quarters. Additionally, we experienced some softness in our incoming order rates following Liberation Day, which we anticipated as a risk coming into our fiscal year and factored into our full year guidance. As we tracked our bookings trends through the quarter, we saw a sharp decline in the daily order rate in late April through May, followed by a notable recovery to more normalized levels in June. On a positive note, order momentum has continued to build through the end of July. While the current market dynamics, particularly surrounding global trade, presents near-term unpredictability, Our strategic focus and operational discipline have us well equipped to harness renewed momentum as conditions stabilize. We remain confident in our strategic positioning to benefit from several very long-term secular growth drivers. This positioning, when combined with our robust approach to gross margin enhancement, sets a strong foundation for sustained growth and value creation for our stakeholders. With that as a backdrop, I'll begin my commentary with the first quarter highlights. As I just discussed, our first quarter revenues were impacted by roughly $10 million in delayed backlog conversion, which contributed to the 5% decline from prior year. These delays, which stem from short-term supply chain challenges and an unanticipated production delay caused by a capital improvement project, are not indicative of lost revenue opportunities. They're simply a matter of timing. Our robust backlog, which continues to grow, positions us well to recognize these revenues in the quarters ahead. While our bookings during the first quarter were down 5% versus last year, we remain confident in our growth outlook. Our strength in bookings over the prior several quarters, the backlog at quarter end up 27% from last year, the delayed revenues in Q1 and strong order trends at FATI all combined to provide a clear path to achieve our revenue plan for the year. Additionally, our total bid pipeline was up 43% at quarter end, boosted by the vapor power acquisition, and driven by activity across several key end markets, including chemical, petrochemical, power and nuclear, LNG, and renewables. Based on these factors, we remain confident that we're well-positioned to generate solid long-term organic growth. As noted, I was very pleased with the team's execution to deliver strong gross margin performance during the quarter, which was up 30 basis points from last year, despite the volume declines and impact of tariffs. The gross margin improvement was a direct function of our strategic shift toward higher margin OPEX revenues across diverse end markets, as well as our tariff mitigation measures, which included actions like pre-buying of materials, shifting of sourcing and production, and price increases, which began to take effect very late in Q1. And finally, our disciplined financial management enabled us to maintain our strong balance sheet with leverage of just one times at quarter end, which provides us the flexibility to execute on our growth strategy, both organic and inorganic, while opportunistically returning capital to our shareholders. Our M&A pipeline remains active, and we continue to search for opportunities to deploy capital to augment our strategic growth initiatives. During the quarter, we returned nearly 10 million in capital through our share repurchase program, and we will continue balancing capital allocation between opportunistic share repurchases and growth investments, with a focus on driving returns for our shareholders. Before I turn it over to Jan, I'd like to take some time to discuss several strategic initiatives that we're very excited about and expect will be key contributors to our growth in the coming quarters and years. These include an emerging opportunity in the data center market, rail and transit, and our most recent acquisition, FATI. Turning now to slide six, we believe unprecedented investments in the data center market represent an emerging growth opportunity for Thermon. According to an independent study, the global load bank market was roughly 280 million in 2024, with growth projections to 445 million in 2032, representing a 4.8% compounded annual growth rate. With the advent of AI and liquid-cooled data centers, the demand for liquid load banks to provide both thermal and electrical loads to test critical cooling systems and power infrastructure has rapidly grown. Based upon management estimates, we believe the current market opportunity for liquid load banks will grow from an estimated $84 million in 2024 to 386 million in 2032, which represents a compounded annual growth rate of 21%. To serve this growing market, Thermon launched the new Pontus and Poseidon load banks on July 28th of this year. As data centers shift from air to liquid cooling, we believe that the opportunity for Thermon legacy solutions like heat tracing, environmental heaters, immersion heaters, tubing bundles, and removable heating blankets grows accordingly. It's early, but we're already seeing a growing pipeline of project activity with new prospective customers that we anticipate will translate into meaningful growth in this segment for years to come. Turning now to slide seven, the rail and transit market is another vertical that we're extremely excited about. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, representing the largest federal investment in public transportation in U.S. history, has provided a very favorable demand environment with higher levels of government funding to modernize public transit and passenger rail systems. We're seeing strong order momentum with rail and transit backlog doubling over the last 12 months. Based on these strong order trends and the longer-term opportunity in this market segment, We're deploying capital and resources to rapidly expand capacity to support this growing opportunity. And finally, the FATI acquisition in October of last year has quickly become our fastest growing acquisition, and we continue to be very excited by the opportunity set for this business. Bati strategically positions us to take advantage of the growing electrification market across Europe. While we've seen a shift in US policy that has stalled investment, the electrification market in Europe is experiencing solid growth. We're seeing strong order momentum with our backlog doubling in just the last six months with a solid pipeline of high probability opportunities going forward. We're extremely encouraged by these opportunities which highlight the strength of our diversification strategy. Looking ahead, our ability to leverage our technologies across high-growth verticals, such as data centers, transit systems, and electrification, positions us to capitalize on dynamic market trends and deliver sustainable shareholder value. This highlights the ingenuity and dedication of our team whose relentless pursuit of excellence allows us to consistently deliver safe, reliable, and innovative thermal solutions for our customers. The successes we see today underscore our differentiated position in the industry and reinforce our confidence in the path forward. With that, I'll turn it over to Jan. who will provide a more detailed review of our first quarter results before I wrap up with some remarks on our financial outlook. Jen?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Bruce, and good morning, everyone. I will review the financial results for the quarter, give an update on working capital and free cash flow, and conclude with comments on the balance sheet and liquidity. Moving now to slide eight, I will start with our first quarter operating highlights. Revenue in the first quarter was 108.9 million, a year-over-year decrease of 5%. Excluding revenue contributed from FATI, first quarter organic revenue decreased 11%. Our OPEX revenues were 93.3 million during the first quarter, a decrease of 4% compared to last year. Excluding the contributions from FATI, OPEX revenues decreased 11% from the same period last year, due to the delayed backlog conversion, as well as the impact of the tariff uncertainty. OPEC's revenues represented 86 percent of total revenues for the quarter. Large project revenue was 15.6 million during the first quarter, down 11 percent from last year. While we noted some improvement in large project bookings last quarter, many of these remain in the engineering phase and we continue to see project schedules shift to the right. Based upon the current schedules, we anticipate that execution will begin in quarter two, carrying through the balance of the year. Our gross profit was $48 million during the first quarter, a decrease of 5% compared to the first quarter last year, as the revenue decline was partially offset by a more favorable revenue mix and tariff mitigation measures. including pricing benefits. As a result, gross margin was 44.1% during the first quarter, up from 43.8% last year, owing to improved profitability in OpEx sales, price, and productivity enhancements. Adjusted EBITDA was $21.2 million during the first quarter, down from $23.2 million last year. a decrease of 9% due to the revenue decline combined with continued investments in growth initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 19.5% during the first quarter, down from 20.1% last year, as the improved gross margins were offset by lower volumes and a modest increase in SG&A due in part to the FATI acquisitions. Gap earnings per share for the quarter was 26 cents, up 4% from 25 cents in the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share was 36 cents, down 5% from 38 cents last year. The decline was primarily driven by lower sales volumes and increased SG&A expenses, partially offset by improved gross margins and reduced interest expense. Orders decreased 5% on a reported basis and were down 19% organically. Orders were down across each geography, particularly in APAC, due to . While bookings were generally weaker across the board, we did see some pockets of strength in commercial, LNG, and as Bruce already discussed, rail and transit. Our first quarter book to bill was 1.11 times which was flat from the prior year. Backlog increased 13% organically due to the positive book to bill in the quarter combined with project execution timing. Turning to performance by geography, year over year sales in US lamb in Canada declined by 17% and 8% respectively, primarily due to delayed backlog conversion and reduced customer demand amid ongoing market uncertainty related to tariffs. In contrast, EMEA delivered strong growth with revenue more than doubling, driven by solid performance in our organic business and a $6.8 million contribution from the FATI acquisition. APAC revenue was $6.6 million, down from $9 million in the prior year period reflecting softer demand in the region. Moving to slide nine for an update on our balance sheet and liquidity. Working capital increased by 9% to $172 million at the end of the quarter, primarily driven by the FATI acquisition and higher inventory as we built stock for the fall heating season and purchased materials in advance of tariffs. CapEx was 2.4 million during the quarter, compared to 3.9 million last year, which included capital investments to support growth initiatives in the prior year. Free cash flow during the first quarter was 8.3 million, down modestly from 8.7 million last year. We repurchased 9.8 million in shares during the first quarter, bringing our total shares repurchased since the start of fiscal 2025 to $30 million. As a reminder, in May, we refreshed our repurchase authorization back to $50 million, so we currently have $44.5 million remaining under our current authorization. We ended the quarter with net debt of $102.8 million and a net leverage ratio of 1.0 times. We recently closed our $240 million credit facility, which extends the maturity to July 2030. In summary, we maintained our strong financial discipline during the first quarter and continued to execute our balanced capital allocation strategy. We remained focused on maintaining a strong balance sheet and ended the quarter with total cash and available liquidity of $130.8 million. This liquidity provides us with ample flexibility to support our capital allocation needs, and we will continue to prioritize investments in organic and inorganic growth while balancing opportunistic share repurchases and debt reduction. With that, I will turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Well, thank you, Jan. And now if you'll all turn to slide 10. We remain focused on navigating a dynamic global trade environment with discipline and agility. We're very pleased with our results during the first quarter as our tariff mitigation efforts were a key factor enabling us to drive gross margin improvement despite the revenue weakness and tariff headwinds. With the announcements on August 1st and questions regarding the details about how these new tariffs will be applied, we're currently assessing the impact to our business. As we gain clarity, I'm confident in our team's ability to quickly respond and minimize and mitigate any impacts going forward. As you can see here, our outlook for fiscal 2026 remains unchanged from our initial expectations. We continue to operate in an uncertain market created by the volatile and rapidly changing trade environment, which makes it very challenging to predict the second and third order impacts from the tariffs, particularly as it relates to customer behaviors impacting demand. Our guidance continues to assume the most recent and any future announcements do not have a notable positive or negative impact on input costs or customer sentiment and the recovery we've seen in order trends is sustained. While we were able to mitigate the impact of tariffs during the first quarter, we continue to see some margin risk for the balance of the year as the full impact of the tariffs is felt and we gain clarity on the most recent announcements. Based on these factors, we're reiterating our fiscal 2026 financial guidance that calls for a revenue in a range of $495 million to 535 million and adjusted EBITDA in a range of 104 million to 114 million. While ongoing global trade dynamics present challenges, we remain highly focused on effectively managing the factors within our control. We've made significant progress in our diversification growth strategy in recent years and are now strategically positioned to benefit from several powerful secular growth drivers, including reshoring, electrification, decarbonization, and power and data centers. We're in an extremely strong financial position with more than sufficient financial flexibility to continue pursuing our strategic priorities, including the discipline allocation of capital, all with an ongoing focus on generating a long-term value for our shareholders. That completes our prepared remarks, and we're now ready for the question and answer portion of our call.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. First question comes from the line of Brian Drab with William Blair.

Please proceed. Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Good morning, Brian. Morning. I just wanted to ask, I think you said there was a capital improvement or productivity improvement project that led to some production delays. Did you say, is that in the past now or the timing of getting that resolved and then the orders that were delayed when those would ship?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Yeah, Brian, we did have a capital improvement project that took one of our value streams down about twice. As long as we had anticipated in the first quarter, it's now up and fully operational and it's back to running at historical throughput levels. And again, we would expect those revenues to convert in Q2 in the balance of the year. We also did have some chain disruption that impacted another value stream, and those have been fully resolved as well.

Okay. Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Got it. So I know you talked about $10 million in delayed revenue. Is that a different issue, or what's the amount of revenue that is associated with that capital improvement delay?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

The supply chain improvement in the capital – Excuse me, the supply chain disruptions in the capital project are roughly 60% of that 10 million. The balance is more in project execution and timing in the quarter.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Got it. Okay, perfect. Thank you. And can we talk a little bit about the liquid load bank opportunity in data center? I guess... Maybe just at the moment, could you spend a little time just describing what the product is that you're shipping? I know you had a press release on this recently, but maybe it'd be worth just explaining briefly what the product is. I don't think it's super intuitive for everybody. And what is your order book looking like or pipeline looking like for that type of activity? Like going in a year from now, like what's sort of the revenue opportunity for that business line?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, great question. So first and foremost, liquid load banks are actually, they're actually, they're based on boiler technology, but essentially they are used to provide both thermal and electrical loads to test the effectiveness of the cooling systems in these new liquid cooled data centers. They also provide an electrical load so that our customers can test the electrical power distribution systems in those data centers. So historically, They had largely just used inductive and resistive load banks. Our technology allows them to test not only the electrical load, but the thermal loads on those systems as well. And the move from air cooled to liquid cooled has created the demand for these systems. As we look forward, the pipeline of opportunity is building. We're just now have just launched these products only a couple of weeks ago, so it's still very early, but we're building that pipeline of opportunities. We're out talking to customers and different types of end users and channels in the market, but we would expect over time to be able to build a 20 to 25% market share in this growing opportunity. And those numbers I covered in the prepared remarks and are outlined in the slide we had in the investor materials.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Thanks very much. And then maybe just one more question. Can you comment, you know, more specifically on gross margin expectations for the next quarter and the balance of the year?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so first of all, as I said earlier, we're pleased with the results in the first quarter. Our outlook had been a little more pessimistic given the impact we anticipated in tariffs. We do expect there to be some margin headwinds in Q2 and beyond. The good news is we're beginning to see pricing come through. By the end of the second quarter, our new prices should be in full effect. And we feel like those are adequate to position us well to fully offset the impact of tariffs as we know it today in the back half of the year. So overall, our view of performance in Q1 is positive. We do see there could be some potential headwinds in Q2. And our expectations are that pricing will offset costs in the back half of the year. On a trailing 12 basis, I think we're sitting at about 44.8% gross margins. I would think by the end of the year, we should be trending in that same direction.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Oh, okay. All right. That's very helpful. Thanks, Bruce.

Thank you. Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes to the line of Justin Age with CGS Securities.

Please proceed. Justin Age | Analyst, CGS Securities

I appreciate the color on the data centers. Can you elaborate on the strong demand that you're seeing at Sati and what has changed since the fiscal fourth quarter, the last report?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Justin. So first of all, we did in the fourth quarter, we talked about just the strong demand environment. We've seen that continue. As we noted in prepared remarks, the backlog there has literally doubled since we closed that deal on October 2nd of last year. They had a very good first quarter in shipments and bookings were quite strong north of 17 million in the first quarter. So, you know, we're seeing very strong demand. The pipeline of opportunities there is quite strong as well. The bulk of this is really related to electrification opportunities in Europe and the Middle East. The way their regulations there are moving forward, we are seeing significant investments in electrification to be able to convert historical heating sources that have been hydrocarbon-based to electric to reduce scope one emissions. So that has been a very positive trend on the European continent, and we're seeing the same in the Middle East. And a couple of these opportunities that they've secured have been related to LNG export, liquefaction and export facilities as well, very large heaters for those applications. So again, we're seeing quite strong demand due to a couple of different market drivers there for Foddy. I think the big impact has been taking that business, plugging it into Thermon's global sales network and being able to effectively develop and close opportunities through Thermon sales channels to really build that backlog over the last seven or eight months.

Justin Age | Analyst, CGS Securities

That's helpful. Thanks, Bruce. And then, Jan, maybe you could elaborate on the capital allocation priorities. I know you touched on it in the prepared remarks, but just hoping to see you know, an update on if there's anything in the M&A funnel or how you're approaching share buybacks. Any more color there would be helpful, please.

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Thanks, Justin. The M&A pipeline is still very active. And, you know, as we've stated before, we'll continue to look for opportunities that complement our strategy. You know, besides, I think, you know, that'll be something that we're focused on. I think we have done some uh, organic investments. So looking more for inorganic investments, um, we'll also continue with our share repurchase program. Um, you know, that would be if we, uh, if we don't have opportunities to prioritize growth. Um, so, you know, that's always something that, uh, you know, we've done when we can buy back shares at attractive levels, if there's nothing, um, or we don't have anything that, you know, really that's attractive in the MNA pipeline or that we think we can, uh, execute on. So we think we have lots of flexibility there. And then I think we're in a good spot with our debt. So the last part of that would just be debt reduction. But at 1.0 times, it's really hard to allocate any free cash flow there.

Justin Age | Analyst, CGS Securities

Thank you, Jen.

I appreciate it. Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one. Our next question comes from the line of Chip Moore with Ross MKM.

Please proceed. Chip Moore | Analyst, Ross MKM

Hi, thanks for taking the question. Apologies, I hopped on a few minutes late, so I'm not sure if you addressed it. Just was wondering, on the heat trace side, pipeline on large projects, Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer: what you're seeing you know there's been some big FIDs out there and and just just any uh any color there yeah Chip good morning yeah so on the pipeline of opportunities as I noted uh you know we've seen some nice growth year over the year it's about about 43 percent um some of the large project bookings were weaker in the quarter but as we talked about the cadence of bookings has improved and We're seeing some very positive awards that we've received here in early in Q2. And the pipeline of opportunities, again, looks to be robust. We have secured some orders in rail and transit in Q1. There's been some key LNG wins that have been larger projects in scope and certainly We've had some opportunities in downstream oil, which we've secured in the first quarter as well. I think the key thing to note is as our backlog is up 27% year-over-year and 13% organically, we've seen a big increase in just the engineering load today, and we're staffing up to be able to respond and get those projects designed and be able to convert that to bills of material and ultimately drive revenue. So that has contributed to the revenue delays in Q1. We've seen that those projects begin to translate to revenue in Q2, and we would expect that through Q3 and Q4 in the back half of the year. I think coming in, we had made some assumptions around tariffs and demand and the like and timing of projects. We were thinking the year might be more front end loaded based on what we're seeing today. It looks to be a more typical revenue distribution we would expect with roughly 44 to 45 percent of revenues in H1. and 55% to 56% of revenues in H2. And that's actually roughly around the five-year average for the business.

Chip Moore | Analyst, Ross MKM

Appreciate the call, Bruce. And maybe if I could sneak in one more on data center. You know, obviously those growth numbers up there, we all know those are huge. So interesting to see the opportunity. I'm just wondering, I guess one on the load bank, I assume this comes on later, you know, in construction when these facilities are coming online? And then any thoughts on go-to-market? Do you need a partner there or, you know, some proof points or how are you thinking about working more aggressively?

Thanks. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so first of all, you're right. These are used, these are really used in two ways. One is they can be installed permanently. in the facilities and they're used not only for startup and commissioning testing, but they're used throughout the life cycle of the asset as they do maintenance on their HVAC or the cooling systems. And also as they expand those facilities, as new technologies come in, all of those are opportunities or requirements for additional testing. So you can see part of this could be earlier in the construction phase. And then there's a lot of these that are used temporarily in the commissioning phase. And we see that through rental houses as well as other big hyperscalers, they'll have their own fleets of this equipment. So it is later in the commissioning phase where we see these, really it's used predominantly. So later in the build cycle. For the channels to market, we're going direct globally, but we do have potential for new partners in both the rental and technology space that we're working on developing those relationships today.

Chip Moore | Analyst, Ross MKM

Great. Appreciate the color.

Thanks very much. Thank you. Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Bratz with Kansas City Capital.

Please proceed. John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Good morning, Bruce. Jan. Good morning. A couple more questions on the data center market. And I think you maybe answered it. I'm not quite sure. But would the customer be maybe the data center or the manufacturer of the cooling system, would you work in potentially in conjunction with the cooling provider?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So it's really both. And it depends on the specific project. In some cases, it could be some of the hyperscalers. In other cases, it's the HVAC contractor that's responsible for the cooling system. And then in some cases, We're actually going through a rental channel to provide these assets on site for the startup and commissioning phase. So there's really different channels to market, and it depends on really whether this is being installed permanently in the facility or being used just during the startup and commissioning phase to test the asset.

John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Okay. You know, if they continue to use it during the life of the data center, is it one unit per data center, or does data centers need multiple units?

Hundreds. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

These are hundreds of units.

John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Okay, okay. So what's out there now? How are the data centers – you know, using, what are they using now? What's the sort of the competitive landscape in this product area?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

So this is an emerging opportunity. It's nascent, and there are a few competitors out there globally for these liquid load banks. More traditionally, there have been resistive and inductive load banks, which are more strictly focused for power distribution testing. This is actually for thermal load testing as well as power testing. And this is really emerged with the advent of liquid cooled data centers. So this is fairly new to the market.

John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Okay. Okay. Okay, good. And I think you addressed this earlier, but, you know, in a best case scenario, How quickly do you think we would begin seeing some meaningful revenues from this new product? Are we six months away, nine months? Any indication from you?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So our goals are to begin to generate revenues from this in the back half of the year and begin to build a backlog going into fiscal 27.

Okay. John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Okay. Okay. Will you separately note some of those numbers?

We will. Okay. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

We will as we begin to develop the pipeline, close orders, and begin to ship. We'll highlight that on a go-forward basis.

John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Okay, Bruce. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to pass the call back over to Bruce for any closing remarks.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Alicia, and thank you all for joining today. We appreciate your interest in Thermon, and we look forward to speaking with you if we don't talk to you before the next call. So thank you all, and enjoy the rest of your day.

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Research summary and source transcript

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Thermon delivered solid Q4 and FY2025 results with 3% organic revenue growth in Q4, 29% backlog growth, and margin expansion driven by operational excellence and a favorable revenue mix shift toward higher-margin OpEx. The company is navigating near-term tariff headwinds but maintains confidence in its strategic initiatives, capital allocation discipline, and long-term growth drivers in diversification, decarbonization, and digitization (3D). While near-term margin pressure is expected from tariffs, mitigation efforts are underway and the business model shows resilience.

Management knows today that the backlog growth is being driven by specific, tangible project awards in the LNG sector—particularly along the US Gulf Coast and in the Middle East—with approximately $80 million in tracked LNG opportunities in the pipeline. This level of granularity on project-stage opportunities and geographic concentration is not yet reflected in the market’s broader view of 'LNG resurgence' and will likely only become visible as these projects progress to execution and revenue recognition over the next 6-24 months. Additionally, the internal tracking of OPEX revenue mix shifting to 85% of total revenue on a trailing 12-month basis, with associated gross margins in the 40-65% range, provides a leading indicator of margin stability that the market may not fully appreciate until sustained over multiple quarters.

The business is driven by: (1) shift to higher-margin recurring OpEx revenues (now 85% of total), (2) execution of the 3D strategy (diversification, decarbonization, digitization) enabling growth beyond core oil and gas, and (3) operational excellence via the Thermon Business System improving productivity and margin expansion.

  • Backlog growth and book-to-bill momentum
  • Tariff impacts and mitigation strategies
  • Progress in 3D initiatives (diversification, decarbonization, digitization)
  • Capital allocation discipline (M&A, share repurchases, debt paydown)
  • OpEx revenue mix shift and margin expansion drivers
  • LNG market resurgence and $80 million in tracked opportunities
  • FATI acquisition integration and backlog doubling
  • Genesis network installed base growing nearly 90% YoY
  • Achieving 70% revenue from diverse end markets two years ahead of schedule
  • Vapor Power acquisition expanding TAM and growing pipeline 70%

Management exhibited a confident, direct, and credible tone throughout the call. CEOs and CFOs provided specific, evidence-backed responses to detailed questions on tariffs, backlog composition, capital allocation, and operational initiatives. There was no defensiveness or vagueness; instead, they acknowledged challenges (e.g., tariff headwinds, macro uncertainty) while clearly articulating mitigation plans and strategic progress. The tone reflected operational familiarity and strategic conviction without overpromising.

  • No clear dodged analyst question was detected by the local fallback; manual review should still check whether Q&A answers quantified conversion, margins, and guidance.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

Thermon appears to be maintaining or improving its competitive position, particularly through its diversified revenue base, operational excellence initiatives, and strategic M&A. The company highlights its resilience in volatile markets, strong backlog growth, and ability to pass on price increases—suggesting pricing power and customer loyalty. While no direct competitor comparisons were made, the emphasis on operational footprint diversification (US, Canada, India, Europe) and reduced China dependence implies a structural advantage in the current tariff environment. The business model shift toward higher-margin OpEx and 3D initiatives supports a defensible, growing position.

  • Q4 FY2025 revenue: $134.1M, up 5% YoY
  • Q4 FY2025 adjusted EBITDA margin: 22.7%, up 423 bps YoY
  • FY2025 revenue: $498M, up 1% YoY despite 37% decline in large capEx projects
  • FY2025 bookings: $536M, book-to-bill: 1.08x
  • Backlog as of March 31, 2025: up 29% YoY, organic backlog up 20%
  • OpEx revenues: 85% of total revenue on TTM basis, gross margins 40-65%
  • FY2025 free cash flow: $52.9M
  • Net leverage: 0.9x at end of FY2025
  • LNG project execution converting $80M pipeline to revenue
  • Continued book-to-bill >1 driving further backlog growth
  • Tariff mitigation via pricing actions and supply chain reconfiguration taking effect in H2 FY26
  • M&A pipeline execution using $137M liquidity
  • Genesys control solutions scaling to drive recurring MRO revenue
  • Tariff-induced input cost inflation pressuring gross margins in H1 FY26 before mitigation takes effect
  • Potential erosion in large capital project spending if trade policy uncertainty persists
  • Execution risk in integrating acquisitions (FATI, Vapor Power) and realizing synergies
  • Dependence on successful rollout of ERP and technology investments without disruption
  • Slower-than-expected adoption in emerging markets like data centers and nuclear power

Management acknowledges data centers as a real opportunity, specifically around load banks, with work underway and updates promised on future calls. However, no revenue contribution, pipeline size, or customer traction was disclosed. The opportunity is framed as incremental and exploratory, not yet material to financials. Given the lack of quantified metrics or timelines, the impact remains speculative and not yet a driver of near-term performance.

  • What is the expected timeline and revenue conversion rate for the $80 million in tracked LNG opportunities?
  • How will the 60-day pricing lag affect gross margin trajectory in Q2 and Q3 FY26, and when is full offset expected?
  • What specific milestones will indicate successful integration of FATI and Vapor Power beyond backlog growth?
  • What is the current pipeline and early revenue contribution from data center initiatives, particularly load banks?
  • How is the 3D strategy (diversification, decarbonization, digitization) contributing to incremental revenue growth versus base business?
  • What are the criteria and timeline for executing M&A from the active pipeline using the $137M liquidity?
  • How will supply chain reconfiguration specifically reduce tariff exposure, and what portion of production is being shifted?
  • What is the anticipated impact of the ERP implementation on operating efficiency and margin expansion post-completion?

FY2025 Q4 earnings call transcript

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NYSE:THR Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 6/6/2026 Conference Operator | Operator: and welcome to the Thurmond Group Holdings fourth quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings presentation. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during this conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Yvonne Salem, Vice President, FP&A, and IR. Thank you.

You may begin. Yvonne Salem | Vice President, FP&A and Investor Relations

Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for joining Thermos Group's fourth quarter and full year fiscal 2025 results conference call. Leading the call today are CEO Bruce Thames and Chief Financial Officer Jan Schott. Earlier this morning, we issued an earnings press release, which has been filed with the SEC on Form 8K, and is also available on the investor relations section of our website. Additionally, the slides for this conference call can be found in our IR website under News and Events, IR Calendar, Earnings Conference Call, Q4 2025. During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We have reconciled those items to the most comfortable GAAP measures in the tables at the end of the earnings press release. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for measures of financial performance reported in accordance with GAAP. I would like to remind you that during this call, we might make certain forward-looking statements regarding our company. Please refer to our annual report and most recently quarterly report filed with the SEC for more information regarding our forward-looking statements, including the risks and uncertainties that could impact our future results. Our actual results might differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements and we undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments, or otherwise, except as might be required by law. Today's call will begin with remarks from our CEO, Bruce Thames, who will provide a review of our recent business performance, including an update on the progress we have made on our strategic initiatives. followed by a financial update and review from our CFO, Jan Schott. Bruce will then wrap up our prepared remarks with an update on our business outlook. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Yvonne, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call today. I'll begin my commentary with the fourth quarter highlights, which we detail on slide three of our presentation. The fourth quarter was another period of solid execution by our team, which resulted in further strength in our OPEX recurring revenues, continued bookings momentum, and strong margin expansion. Over the past couple of quarters, We detailed how our team has remained focused on our key strategic priorities despite the difficult market conditions. While CapEx revenue trends in recent quarters were weaker than we would have liked, we remain confident that the positive order momentum in our business would translate to an improved growth trajectory. During the fourth quarter, our hard work and dedication paid off as we generated 3% organic growth during the quarter, the first in over a year. These order trends have improved across a range of verticals, most notably the LNG market. After the moratorium on LNG exports from the US was lifted earlier this year, activity has resumed and we're seeing increased bidding and project awards. The activity around natural gas is broad based with numerous projects underway in the Gulf Coast and the Middle East. We built a strong portfolio of products targeting the LNG market, have secured five major awards and are well positioned to capitalize on numerous other opportunities in our pipeline. This bookings momentum resulted in the fourth consecutive quarter with a positive book to build. As a result, our backlog as of March 31st increased 29% from last year, with the organic backlog up 20%, driven by momentum and diversified verticals, coupled with a rebound in certain oil and gas markets. We also made further progress on our operational excellence initiatives, which combined with our more favorable revenue mix, translated to an EBITDA margin of 22.7% during the fourth quarter, a 423 basis point improvement relative to Q4 of last year. These results underscore the strength of the Thermon business system and resilience of our business operating model. And finally, our strict financial discipline and improved operating profitability enabled us to finish fiscal 2025 in a strong financial position with net leverage of just under one times. Importantly, we were able to accomplish this while continuing to invest in our growth initiatives, while also making nearly $14.5 million in optional debt repayments and returning over $14 million and capital shareholders through our share repurchase program all in the fourth quarter. As a testament to our solid financial position, the board has approved refreshing our share repurchase authorization back to the initial $50 million, underscoring our optimism for the future. Turning now to reflect on fiscal 2025, I'm extremely pleased with our team's performance delivering another record year of revenue and adjusted EBITDA. despite what was a very challenging operating environment. On slide four, we provide a snapshot of our 2025 highlights. Our 498 million in revenue was up just 1% over prior year, despite a 37% decline in large capital projects. Our diverse revenue base, making up over 72% of our end market mix, along with growth in recurring revenues and strategic M&A, were instrumental in delivering this year's results. We generated an adjusted EBITDA margin of 22% during fiscal 2025, which was up 86 basis points from last year, reflecting our more favorable revenue mix and productivity gains through the implementation of the Thermon business system. Our earnings growth and solid gross margin expansion of 196 basis points delivered 53 million in free cash flow during the year. More importantly, we generated 536 million in bookings during the year with a book to bill of 1.08 times, demonstrating the favorable trends in our end markets, our strong competitive position, and the hard work and dedication of our team. Our 3D initiatives, which we'll discuss in more detail later on the call, contributed 93 million in revenue during the year. The R&D team also announced 28 new product and software releases during fiscal 25, advancing our solution set from digitization to diversification and decarbonization as well as in the core business. The advancement of our strategy positions us well as we enter our fiscal year with solid momentum, which we illustrate on slide five. The addition of vapor power has expanded our addressable market, increasing our sales pipeline by 25%, even though the business represents just 11% of total revenue today. The favorable book to build, underpinned by strong order trends in recent quarters, has resulted in backlog growth on a year-over-year basis. While there is broader macro uncertainty, we remain encouraged by the favorable trends in our key end markets, which is reflected in our strong bid pipeline, which is up 25% from the end of last year. As we anticipate the opportunities ahead in fiscal 2026, I would like to take a moment to reflect on the strides we've made in advancing our strategic initiatives during fiscal 2025. Now turning to slide six, where we highlight our key strategic pillars. First, growing our installed base. Second, decarbonization, digitization, and diversification. And third, disciplined capital allocation. These pillars underpinned by our dedication to operational excellence form the basis of our long-term value creation framework. I will begin on slide seven with growing the installed base. Over the past 70 years, we've cultivated a loyal customer base that is the foundation of this business and continues to drive meaningful results, even in challenging market conditions. During fiscal 2025, our organic revenues declined only 8%, despite a decline in large project revenues of nearly 40%. On a trailing 12 month basis, our OpEx revenues represented 85% of our total revenues up from the low 70% range just two years ago, providing a more stable and predictable base of revenues. As importantly, these OpEx revenues carry significantly higher gross margins, typically in the 40 to 65% range, well above the levels in our large project business. On slide eight, we underscore the critical components of our second strategic pillar, pursuing diversification, decarbonization, and digitization, otherwise known as our 3D initiatives, to achieve growth above and beyond GDP. By capitalizing on these transformative opportunities and expanding our presence in higher growth, diversified markets, we are positioning the company for sustained profitability and long-term competitive advantage. Diversification shown here on slide nine has been an area where we've exceeded our expectations. The goal of 70% of revenue from diverse end markets was achieved at the beginning of fiscal 25, almost two years early. One of the most significant insights from fiscal 2017 is the remarkable 220% revenue growth driven by diversification across multiple end markets, even as oil and gas revenues contracted. As we look forward, we remain committed to further diversifying our revenue base through new product introductions and expanding into new emerging markets, such as data centers and nuclear power. That said, our longstanding oil and gas customers remain an important part of the Thermon business at roughly 30% of our total revenues. We've been encouraged by the recent LNG project activity, which we view as a bridge fuel for years to come. These pockets of strength we're seeing contributed to our Q4 bookings with oil and gas up over 50% from last year. Based on the priorities of the newest administration, we're optimistic this momentum can continue. Turning now to slide 10. The decarbonization opportunity remains a critical aspect of our strategy as we look to leverage existing solutions and new product development to meet our customers' decarbonization and electrification needs. The electrification of industrial heating is still in its early stages, and we built both the technical competencies and breadth of solutions to enable this transition. The acquisition of vapor power in fiscal year 24 expanded our product portfolio while increasing our total addressable market for decarbonization and electrification opportunities with the pipeline growing 70% and revenues increasing 85% over fiscal year 24. During fiscal 2025, we took another important step to further advance our decarbonization strategy with the acquisition of FATI. This acquisition brought us a very well-respected brand of heating solutions that is highly complimentary to our legacy portfolio while expanding our global manufacturing footprint. Since acquiring the business, the FATI backlog has essentially doubled due to strong demand from Thermon legacy customers. In addition to our inorganic growth, we have built advanced software analytic tools to validate designs and launch several new products that reduce the total cost of ownership for our customers. While the policy shift in the U.S. has led to a slowdown in decarbonization conversion rates, Europe continues to invest in the energy transition. As outlined on slide 11, we remain highly encouraged by the significant strides we've made in advancing our digitization strategy. The continued investment in our Genesys control offerings reflects our unwavering commitment to delivering leading controls and monitoring solutions that empower our customers with real-time operational insights, enhancing safety, reliability, and efficiency. These solutions now constitute 12% of our total heat tracing revenue, a clear testament to its growing impact. Furthermore, fiscal 2025 saw remarkable growth in our Genesis network installed base, where circuit counts surged by nearly 90%, and we're projecting an additional 50% growth in fiscal 2026. This robust adoption underscores the differentiated value we bring to the market. By enabling our customers to digitize and optimize their maintenance operations, we are not only strengthening our competitive advantage, but also driving success in new capital projects while capturing recurring MRO revenues. This strategic focus positions us well for sustained growth and leadership in the market. Turning now to slide 12. I'm pleased to highlight the transformative impact of the Thermon business system. By streamlining our operations through initiatives such as rooftop consolidation and efficiency improvements, as well as the seamless integration of vapor power and FATI, we've strengthened our operational foundation. This system not only accelerates our progress towards achieving our profitability targets, but also enhances our agility and positions us to deliver a sustained competitive advantage in the marketplace. And finally, As it relates to our disciplined capital allocation strategy, we successfully executed our balance approach during fiscal 2025. As we continue to make important investments to advance our organic growth strategy, we deployed capital for strategic M&A through the acquisition of FATI, recurrent capital to shareholders through our share repurchase program, and made optional debt repayments throughout the year. As we move forward, our strategic focus remains on identifying and executing high value acquisitions that align with our mission to expand and diversify our portfolio of industry-leading industrial heating solutions. With that, I'll turn it over to Jan, who will provide a more detailed review of our fourth quarter results before I wrap up with some remarks on our financial outlook. Jan?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Bruce, and good morning, everyone. I will review the financial results for the quarter, give an update on working capital and free cash flow, and conclude with comments on the balance sheet and liquidity. Moving to slide 14, I will start with our fourth quarter highlights. Revenue in the fourth quarter was $134.1 million, a year-over-year increase of 5%, driven by continued momentum in OPEX revenues, including solid growth at Vapor Power, and contribution from Fatih. Please note that vapor power is now included in organic results. Our strategic focus of diversifying our revenue base and increasing our exposure to short-cycle projects and MRO-related recurring revenue continues to benefit our business. This was partially offset by softness and large project revenue. As Bruce mentioned earlier, we are beginning to see improved booking momentum in our large project business. Large project revenue was $22.3 million during the fourth quarter, down 5% from last year. Compared to the previous quarter, however, we saw revenue increase 20%, another indicator of improved momentum in CapEx spending. Our OpEx revenues were $111.8 million during the fourth quarter, an increase of 7% compared to last year, highlighting the benefit of our strong and loyal installed base of customers and the stability of maintenance and repair spending. Excluding the contributions from FATI, OPEX revenues increased 4% from the same period last year. OPEX revenues represented 83% of total revenues for the quarter. Orders increased 19% on a reported basis and were up nearly 14% organically, with balanced strength across our diversified end markets, including strength in chemical, petrochemical, and rail and transit markets. We also saw a rebound in oil and gas, particularly LNG, as Bruce mentioned earlier. As a result, our fourth quarter book to bill was 1.04 times up from 1.03 times in the prior quarter. Looking at our results by geography, U.S. lamb sales increased 6% due to continued strength in OPEX revenue and improved large project trends. Revenue in EMEA was up 51% on a reported basis to 15 million and up 18% excluding the contribution from FATI. Canada sales of 40 million were down 6% from last year due to the general macroeconomic conditions in the country. Revenues in APAC were 9.2 million. Adjusted EBITDA was 30.5 million during the fourth quarter, up from 23.6 million last year, an increase of 29%. Solid revenue growth and strong operating performance were partially offset by continued investments in growth initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 22.7% during the fourth quarter, up from 18.5% last year due to a more favorable revenue mix, disciplined cost management, and productivity gains. Moving to slide 16 for an update on our balance sheet and liquidity, Working capital increased by 3% to $167.6 million at the end of the quarter due to timing of collections. CapEx was $3.1 million during the quarter, flat compared to last year. Free cash flow during fiscal 2025 was $52.9 million, down from $55 million last year. While we remained focused on working capital management and strong free cash flow conversion, the modest decline in free cash flow was driven by technology investments tied to our ERP implementation. We repurchased 14 million in shares during the fourth quarter, bringing our total share repurchases for 2025 to over 20 million. As Bruce mentioned earlier, After purchasing $24 million to date under our original share repurchase program, our board approved a refresh of the program back to $50 million. We paid down $14.5 million of net debt during the quarter, bringing our net debt balance to $99 million and are reporting net leverage at the end of the year of 0.9 times. we are currently working with our bank group to extend the maturity of our existing credit facility, which becomes current in September, 2025. In summary, the fourth quarter wrapped up a year of strong financial discipline for Thermon. We successfully executed our capital allocation priorities, including continued investments in organic growth, capital deployed for acquisition, and opportunistic return of capital through our share repurchase program. And we did all of this while still maintaining a strong balance sheet. Based on our total cash and available liquidity of $137 million, we remain well capitalized and have ample flexibility to support our capital allocation needs and will continue to balance investments in growth, debt pay down, and opportunistic share repurchases. With that, I will turn the call back over to Bruce.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jan. Moving now to slide 17. As we enter fiscal year 2026, we remain focused on navigating a dynamic global trade environment with discipline and agility. Tariffs continue to present both direct and indirect challenges to our cost structure, particularly in the form of elevated input costs and near-term margin pressure. Our current assumptions include 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum, 30% on goods from China, 25% reciprocal tariffs from Canada and Mexico, and 10% for the rest of the world. Based upon these assumptions, we're expecting an annualized impact of roughly 16 to 20 million on a gross basis prior to mitigating actions, which are already underway. While our direct market exposure to China remains low, representing just 2% of total revenue, we're mindful of second and third order effects through our supplier and distributor networks. These ripple effects are being closely monitored and addressed through proactive supply chain management. To mitigate these impacts, we're executing a multi-pronged strategy. First, pricing actions. We've implemented targeting price increases to offset rising input costs while maintaining competitiveness and customer value. Second, USMCA compliance. We're committed to preserving our USMCA qualifications, which continue to provide a strategic advantage in North America. Third, global footprint optimization. With manufacturing operations in the US, Canada, India, and Europe, we are leveraging our global footprint to shift production and sourcing in ways that reduce tariff exposure. Fourth, supply chain reconfiguration. We are actively evaluating and reconfiguring our supply chain to minimize tariff related disruptions and enhance resilience. Despite these headwinds, we're entering fiscal year 26 with strong order momentum and a healthy backlog, which reinforces our confidence in the underlying demand for our products and the strength of our customer relationships. We remain calm, focused and confident in our ability to manage through these challenges while continuing to deliver long-term value for our shareholders. And now if you'll turn to slide 18, I'll discuss our outlook for fiscal 2026. Looking forward, The uncertainty created by the volatile and rapidly changing trade environment makes it very challenging to ascertain the second and third order impacts from tariffs, particularly as it relates to customer behaviors and the demand environment. Our guidance assumes the current tariff levels remain in place, resulting in margin headwinds in the first half of the year, offset by price increases in the back half of the year as mitigating actions take full effect. Given the uncertainty with tariffs and the overall global economy, the current guidance contemplates slowing growth in the second half of the fiscal year. Based upon these factors, we're providing fiscal 2026 financial guidance that calls for revenue in a range of $495 million to $535 million, representing 3.5% growth at the midpoint of the range. Adjusted EBITDA is in a range of $104 million to $114 million, essentially flat at the midpoint of the range. Our guidance assumes a modest decline in adjusted EBITDA margin, largely as a result of the expected lag before our tariff mitigation efforts in the first half will flow through to possibly impact results in the second half. Given the dynamic nature of tariffs, global trade and policy changes, we'll provide updates on the business and our mitigating actions throughout the year. Finally, as we conclude on slide 19, I want to express my deep appreciation for the efforts of the Thermon team throughout fiscal 2025. Their dedication and innovation have positioned us as a leader in industrial process heating with a resilient business model and efficient operational framework. While the ongoing tariff dynamics present challenges, we remain acutely focused on the things within our control. With a strong financial foundation and clear strategic priorities, we are confident in our ability to capitalize on opportunities, mitigate risks, and deliver sustained value for our shareholders. That completes our prepared remarks. We are now ready for the question and answer portion of our call.

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Please state your question. Chip Moore | Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Hey, Morgan. Thanks for taking the question. Hey, Bruce, I wonder if you could elaborate on, you talked about LNG seeing a bit of a resurgence. Can you elaborate a bit on that, what you're seeing, how that might translate?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Chip. Since the lift of the moratorium in the January timeframe, there was always really a number of projects that were in the queue in our pipeline, and we've seen those move forward pretty quickly. And as I noted in the prepared remarks, the areas of strength we've seen have been along the US Gulf Coast, as well as in the Middle East. And some of those are field developments, as well as export facilities. As we look at our pipeline ahead, there's a number of opportunities that are still out there. We're tracking around $80 million in LNG opportunities for our content. So we see really some nice tailwinds there in that sector.

Chip Moore | Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Great. I appreciate that. And maybe just on... FY26, you talked about, I think, some margin headwinds maybe here in the first half before the pricing kicks in. And then maybe growth being a little more challenging in the back end. Maybe just any more detail there on what you're thinking and directionally and cadence.

Thanks. Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, great question. So we've put together a task force. We're looking very closely at the inflationary impact of tariffs to our input costs. And while it's a moving target, we see there'll be a near-term impact to gross margins in the first half of the year. We've already moved on pricing in a number of areas to be able to offset that. As usual, our pricing, we have about a 60-day window or lag before that is effective through our channel partners and with customers. So there's a lag effect there. There's also work that's in backlog, particularly around project activity, some of which we don't have the opportunity to go and renegotiate. So we anticipate that will be a margin. Those will create some margin headwinds in the first half. However, we have pricing power. We've been able to pass price increases in the past. I look back at COVID and the inflationary impact there. We were able to pass those on. My expectations, we've moved fairly quickly here, and so we should begin to see that flow through late in the second quarter and see that fully offset any inflationary input cost we see in the first half. The looking more at the demand environment, certainly when you look at the leading indicators as we come into this fiscal year, there's nothing that would indicate that there's a big slowdown in the back half, but it's just a more cautious approach given the uncertainty. It's difficult, I think, for customers to parse through the data, particularly as it relates to deploying capital. And so it's our general belief that this could create a headwind in in the back half of the year although the leading indicators we track have not indicated that to be true yet fantastic appreciate it i'll hop back in queue thanks and your next question comes from brian drab with william blair please see your question good morning thanks for taking the questions Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair: I just wanted to maybe first build on that last question. And first, how are you thinking about, you know, the overtime category in your forecast for fiscal 26? Is it, you know, obviously is it, you know, down a lot in fiscal 25? Are you forecasting that to be about the same, I guess, given the overall guidance?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yes, roughly. The way we're thinking about this right now is that we actually saw a really nice backlog build in overtime projects. In fact, our engineering workload is really at an all-time high, and that's related to the return of capital projects that we've seen really building. We anticipated that coming into this year, and it really began to manifest, particularly in the fourth quarter. But we've had four consecutive quarters of positive book to bill. So this has been building. Our assumption at this point is that the incoming order rates for these larger capital projects will be muted until we get more clarity on trade policy going forward, and we'll begin to burn through those through the second half of the year. So that's essentially the assumptions we have at the midpoint of our guide. If we look at our guide overall, the upper end of the range would be really what we would have maybe anticipated had we not had some of the trade disruptions and given the momentum we have seen in the market leading into our fiscal 26. The lower end of the range would assume an erosion in the overall trade negotiations and an escalation in the trade conflicts.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay, thanks. Can I ask you to comment on, you know, how you're thinking about at the midpoint of the range, how you're thinking about the, you know, the OPEX spending, you know, the point in time segment?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

The mix should be fairly consistent to what we saw in 25. It should be fairly consistent when you look at our guide at the midpoint.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Can you talk at all about, you know, other categories or, you know, other end markets where you're seeing some of the improvement in the CapEx spending? You talked about the LNG being a standout, but are there other areas? And can you update us at all on if you're seeing any incremental demand from the data center opportunity that you mentioned last quarter?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so I'll start with just the overall demand environment. General industrial remains strong. It's one of our largest booking segments in the fourth quarter. It represented almost 32% of the bookings in the quarter. Chemical, petrochemical, we saw it almost 17.5%. in the quarter. So we've seen some strong demand there. As I noted earlier, oil and gas, which has been weak for quite some time, we've seen an uptick there, particularly as it relates to LNG. And when we look overall, renewables, we still see opportunities. And that was actually up, although it's a fairly small percent of revenue, but that was up fairly sharply in the fourth quarter as well. Rail and transit, we've seen some really strong bookings. Our backlog there has grown to about 36 million, of which we anticipate executing about 17 million of that in the coming year. The one thing To note here around data centers, we've done more work there, and that is a real opportunity around load banks, and we've got some work underway. We'll provide some more updates on that in upcoming calls, but that is a real opportunity in the market, and we're very active in trying to develop and execute on that opportunity we see.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. I'm going to save my questions for later, but I just want to make sure I have one thing, high-level idea correct here. It seems like what I'm hearing from you today is that, you know, backlog's up 20% organically. You've got some momentum in some different end markets. The CapEx environment at the moment looks like it's improved materially, but, you know, just, you know, Instead of like a lot of companies are doing polling guidance, you're just saying we're going to give a broad kind of a broad range. There's a lot of, you know, the consensus view is that there's going to be a slowdown later this year, you know, overall macro. So you're taking all of this into account and just saying, let's be cautious. But it seems like the high end of the range, you know, it could be in play here. Is this a fair way to interpret everything that I'm hearing today?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think that's a really good way of summarizing it, Brian. I think the high end of the range, as I said, if we see some real progress on some of these trade agreements, we get more clarity on the tariff environment going forward. I think customers can become more comfortable with deploying capital, which we've seen that momentum building, quite frankly, for at least the last three quarters. And we began to see it manifest in our Q4 with expectations that would come through in fiscal 26. So we're being more cautious in really the demand side of the equation, just given the uncertainty that we see and our customers are seeing in the trade environment.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Got it. Okay. Thanks for all the detail.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

We'll talk to you later.

Yes. Conference Operator | Operator

Thank you. And a reminder to ask a question, press star one on your phone. Your next question comes from Justin Ages with CJS Securities.

Please state your question. Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

Hi, thanks for taking the questions. Hey, Justin. With the debt pay down and the share buyback and then refresh, can you just give us a little more detail on your capital allocation priorities?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Hi, Justin. I'll take that one. You know, I guess first and foremost, you know, we have our capital investments for growth. And that's in the same range that we've done in prior years with two to three percent CapEx, two percent of sales. And then probably with all of the technology investments that we have going in, that's about one percent for next year. So that's first and foremost. You know, second, I would say we do. Obviously, with the refresh of the share repurchase program, we'll look for opportunistic opportunities to buy shares. We bought 14 million shares this last quarter, really taking advantage of some dips due to other macro economic things that were happening. But we think that that's really a path forward and we'll continue on that plan. And then the other aspect is also that we do have an active M&A pipeline. And in this environment, really, you know, just looking for buying opportunities, to be honest. But I think, you know, that's something that we're very focused on. And with $137 million of liquidity, we have a lot of, you know, tailwinds at our back really looking, you know, hoping to execute something in the near term and on M&A.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

Okay, I appreciate that. And then you just mentioned that guidance includes this $5 million one-time tech investment. Can you just give us a little more color on what that entails?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

That's mostly associated with our ERP implementation that we have ongoing. We'll be implementing kind of in stages across the globe, really over the next year and a half or so. And so we're actually looking forward to, you know, having more color on that, I guess, in future calls. But that's underway right now.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

Okay. Thank you. And then last question. On Thurmond, you know, long-term initiatives, and particularly on the EBITDA margin target. Just wanted to know, you know, what steps are you taking to get there? Do they include some of these mitigation efforts that are now part of, you know, offsetting some of the tariff impact? Just any color on that.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so certainly the higher input costs create some headwinds in the near term, but I still feel confident that the same levers that we have to pull in the business exist on a go-forward basis to continue to drive EBITDA margin expansion. We saw some very nice Gross margin expansion in the year, about half of that was related to mix. We had about 196 basis points, and so half of that was mixed. The other half was the Thermon business system and the rooftop consolidation we did earlier in the year with consolidating operations into San Marcos, as well as the continuous improvement efforts that we've made going forward. So we continue to see that as a lever. to be able to drive gross margin expansion. And then certainly as we look forward, price is always an opportunity and we tend to be able to get price in the marketplace. New product introductions create opportunities as we work and implement the Thermon business system in our new acquisitions. Those were a headwind to our gross margin profile this year, but we're confident there's a path to get those more in line with the averages of the market the overall enterprise. And so those are opportunities for margin expansion. And then last but not least, as we drive growth and volume, we get operating leverage on the fixed cost basis. So those are really the levers that we see pulling on a go forward basis. We were able to improve 86 basis points this past year. I believe we can continue to drive those changes, although I do see Just a setback this year, given the impact of tariffs on input costs and a lag of being able to push that through to the market.

Justin Ages | Analyst, CJS Securities

I appreciate the answers.

Thank you. Conference Operator | Operator

Thank you. Thank you. And your next question comes from John Bratz with Kansas City Capital.

Please state your question. John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

Good morning, Bruce. Good morning. Maybe a little more clarity on the tariffs. You said the gross impact is $16 to $18 million. Obviously, you have some mitigation efforts, but when you think about the upcoming year, what might be the net impact for the full year, considering the mitigation efforts?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so on a gross basis, we gave a range of $16 to $20 million. Yes, that's right. And we believe on a net impact, it's somewhere in the $4 to $6 million range within the current fiscal year.

John Bratz | Analyst, Kansas City Capital

And that'll be mostly in the first half, correct? Correct. Correct. Okay. Okay. All right. Good. Okay. And then secondly, when you look at the competitive landscape – Are any of your competitors in a better position regarding tariffs and trade policy and all this other stuff, in a better position or worse position? Any thoughts on the competitive landscape given the new trade policies?

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

That's a difficult question, especially just given the complexity and interconnectedness of global supply chains today. But what I can say is about our position. And given our operating footprint in the U.S., about 50% of our production is from the U.S., we have a significant presence in Canada as well. We do a lot of in-country, four-country production. The acquisition of FATI increased our operating presence in the European continent and certainly has been really a bright spot when we look at just the overall demand environment there for FATI. for decarbonization and electrification solutions. And that business, we acquired it with about a $15 million backlog. It's almost doubled since that time. And our ability to serve that on the European continent is a real advantage. And then we do have operations in India that will begin to leverage to serve more of the Asian continent. And we certainly, as we look at our M&A opportunities, we're looking for potential acquisitions that would mirror a FATI that would give us a larger operating footprint in Asia, just for these types of situations, just to diversify our risk base. Yeah. We've made a lot of progress since COVID. We've done a lot to build more resiliency into our supply chains. I think that really exposed weaknesses, not only in us, but with others. We've never been heavily dependent upon China. So I think that's a real advantage. that we have over some others. The one thing I would note is that while we're not dependent, we are exposed in second and third order effects with our suppliers and their supply chains. Although again, people have diversified away from China and have multiple sources. So we'll just have to see how a lot of this flows through. But we've factored all of that into our guide.

Conference Operator | Operator

Yep. Okay. All right, Bruce, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, and the next question comes from Brian Drab with William Blair.

Please state your question. Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Hi, I'm back with just one clarification. On the one-time technology investment, $5 million, this is not being adjusted out of, obviously, is what you're indicating. It's not being adjusted out of your guidance or EPS calculation, and it seems like you know, that would be about 100 basis point headwind to operating margin and EBITDA margin. Is that the right way to think about it?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

No, this would be adjusted out of – or on the adjusted EBITDA calculation in APS.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay, so you are – okay, so I'm glad I clarified that. So you're saying – you're just calling it out that it is an adjustment. Okay. I just missed it. I just wanted to make sure. Okay. Okay, so there is a – you are expecting a margin headwind – you know, excluding this situation. Okay. All right.

Thank you very much. Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

And it's not, it's, it's, you know, I think it's, it's obvious, it's obviously not something that we do every year and don't plan to.

So. Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Right. Right. And well, that was my other question is that this goes away then in that you're expecting to the 5 million to be the entire investment and for that to be a fiscal 26 event and fiscal 27, it's the plan is for this not to be an expense line. Is that right?

Jan Schott | Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I mean, we will have some, I think, some very marginal investments going into 27 for just some of the, you know, acquired entities that will roll into the new ERP system. But the majority will be in fiscal 26, yes.

Brian Drab | Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Okay.

Perfect. Thanks very much. Conference Operator | Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's all the questions we have for today. I'll now hand the floor back to Bruce Thames for closing remarks.

Bruce Thames | Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thank you, Diego. And I'd like to, again, thank our Thermon employees around the globe for their contributions to a successful 2025. And thank you all for your interest in Thermon. If we don't speak to you in the coming quarter, we look forward to you joining us on our next earnings call. Thank you and have a good day.

Conference Operator | Operator

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