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KSCP earnings call analysis

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KSCP's FY2026 Q2 call is best read as a thesis-quality check, not a transcript recap. The upside case is that AI and compute-heavy infrastructure demand are becoming real drivers of customer activity. The key investor question is whether that activity converts into durable revenue, royalties, margins, and cash flow rather than remaining a strong-sounding demand story.

Framework #1 asks what management may know now that the market may not fully recognize for 6-24 months. For KSCP, the possible information gradient is whether current demand, backlog, customer activity, or AI/data-center engagement is an early signal of durable conversion rather than a one-quarter narrative. The transcript still needs follow-through in future quarters before that can be treated as proven.

The business engine appears to be demand conversion into revenue at acceptable incremental margins; the fallback needs management's KPIs and historical conversion data to grade it more precisely.

  • Management centered the story on AI, compute, or data-center demand, which is the key thesis variable to verify in future quarters.
  • Backlog and demand visibility were important to the quarter's credibility.
  • Profitability and margin durability should be treated as quality-of-revenue checks, not just headline metrics.
  • Customer renewal and new-logo activity are the clearest checks on whether demand is broadening.
  • Management's strongest emphasis appears to be around demand momentum and AI/compute-related opportunity; the useful investor question is whether that enthusiasm is backed by conversion and customer economics.

The tone reads constructive but still needs investor skepticism. Management appears to have enough operating evidence to discuss momentum, but the call only becomes high-quality if the numbers support conversion, margins, cash flow, and customer breadth. Local fallback reason: model analysis failed during on-demand transcript rendering: Earnings call analyzer failed with status 403..

  • No clear dodged analyst question was detected by the local fallback; manual review should still check whether Q&A answers quantified conversion, margins, and guidance.
  • No clear goalpost move was detected by the local fallback; the main follow-up is whether future quarters keep the same KPIs and conversion targets.

Competitive position looks potentially improving, but not proven. Customer activity and AI/compute exposure suggest the company may be in the right demand pools; the missing proof is market-share data, pricing power, win/loss detail, and retention economics.

  • Key figure to verify: Revenue came in at $9 million, up more than 200% from $2.7 million in the same quarter last year, and a new quarterly record for the company.
  • Key figure to verify: That marks two consecutive record quarters following first quarter revenue that was up 106% year over year.
  • Key figure to verify: This team has been working on efficiencies and delivering tangible results, including cutting the assembly time for one of our product lines by almost 80%.
  • Key figure to verify: Revenue for the second quarter was $9 million, an increase of 228% compared with $2.7 million in the second quarter of 2025, and a new quarterly record.
  • Key figure to verify: Gross margin was .7 million, or approximately 7% of revenue, compared with a gross loss of .9 million in the prior year period.
  • The quarter appears to be moving from story to evidence: operating momentum is showing up in revenue, royalties, or backlog rather than only in management narrative.
  • Customer activity looks healthier than a one-quarter spike because the transcript points to both retention/renewal work and new-account activity.
  • AI and data-center exposure look strategically relevant rather than cosmetic, because management ties demand to compute-heavy end markets instead of treating it as a generic buzzword.
  • Profitability is a quality signal here, but the investment value depends on whether margins can hold as mix, hiring, and customer concentration evolve.
  • The main open question is conversion: AI or data-center engagement has to turn into recurring royalties, cash flow, and repeatable design wins before it deserves full credit in valuation.
  • Backlog lowers some demand uncertainty, but investors still need timing, cancellation risk, concentration, and conversion economics before treating it as de-risked revenue.
  • Margin strength is not itself a risk; the risk is whether that margin level is sustainable if revenue mix, investment spend, or pricing changes.
  • There is enough downside language in the transcript to require follow-up on execution, timing, or disclosure quality rather than reading the quarter as fully clean.

The data-center angle appears investable but still needs sizing. The call connects the company to AI or compute-heavy infrastructure demand, which is directionally positive, but the thesis should depend on how much of that activity becomes durable revenue, royalties, and cash conversion rather than on thematic exposure alone.

  • How much of the AI or data-center engagement converts into recurring royalties or repeat revenue within the next four quarters?
  • What portion of backlog is cancellable, delayed, concentrated, or dependent on a small number of customers?
  • Can current margin levels persist as mix, headcount, and product investment change?
  • Did management quantify cash conversion and operating leverage, or only highlight revenue and demand?
  • Are customer wins broad enough to imply share gain rather than a few isolated projects?

FY2026 Q2 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:KSCP Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 10/9/2026 Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Nightscope's second quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm Apoorv Dwivedi, executive vice president and chief financial officer, and I'm joined by William Santana Li, founder, chairman, and chief executive officer. By now, you should have had a chance to review our second quarter 2026 earnings release, which was published at 1.05 p.m. Pacific time, just after markets closed. Before we begin, please note that today's discussion contains overlooking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding our goals, growth, prospects, product roadmap, and outlook. Actual results may differ materially due to the risks and uncertainties described under risk factors in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K as updated by our other FCC filings. Overlooking statements speak only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update them except as required by law. With that, it is my pleasure to turn this call over to Bill.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Apoorv, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for spending part of your day with us. I'm going to start with the business and marketing highlights from the second quarter, what we won, what we built, and how we're setting up the second half of the year. Then I'll hand the call back over to Apoorv. We'll take you through the financials in detail. So let's dive right in. The second quarter of 2026 was the best quarter in NightSculpt's history. Revenue came in at $9 million, up more than 200% from $2.7 million in the same quarter last year, and a new quarterly record for the company. We now serve 434 clients across 42 states. That marks two consecutive record quarters following first quarter revenue that was up 106% year over year. Back in May, I stood in front of institutional investors in New York and made a simple commitment. Each quarter, better than the last. We have delivered exactly what we said we would do. In the second quarter, we built on the momentum from the first quarter of 2026, and we believe that we have laid the groundwork to keep it going forward. This compounding effect is the result of relentless commitment to execution across the entire organization. Apoorv will walk you through the drivers behind those numbers in just a few minutes. The integration of our recent acquisition now known as our security force is proceeding as planned and the collaboration between the teams is amazing to witness. Seeing firsthand the team collaborate on our new H1 wearable that will define the future augmented security agent or ASA is truly, truly invigorating. The teams are operating and beginning to work as one. as we look to expand our offerings with our current client base. This was our second acquisition as a public company, and the discipline the team has shown, closing it, filing it, and now integrating it without missing a beat, tells you a lot about the caliber of the team. More importantly, it strengthens exactly how we intend to differentiate Nightscope, the unique combination of hardware, software, and humans delivered as one managed service. This team has been working on efficiencies and delivering tangible results, including cutting the assembly time for one of our product lines by almost 80%. We've grown the depth of our technical team significantly as we're seeing interest in Nightscope grow significantly. We restructured our field service network in Northern California and the Northeast region by building relationships with local service providers and by insourcing Field Services in Southern California to provide better services while lowering our service delivery costs. We also strengthened the leadership in the company, recruiting multiple senior executives with a track record of scaling companies. Growth with discipline, that is the operating model. The K7, our all-new autonomous security robot, passed its Alpha prototype gate review. and we remain on track for initial deployments in the fourth quarter of 2026 as we move into the beta prototype phase. In April, we announced our partnership with Carnegie Mellon University, the top robotics institution in the country, whose graduate robotics program is now working directly on autonomous patrol technology under the guidance of our engineering team. We're taking a disciplined approach to the K7's market introduction, focused on success in the field. Client interest in the K7 deployment continues to grow. Simultaneously, significant work is well underway on an all-new signals platform designed to orchestrate our autonomous robots, stationary devices, sensors, augmented security agents, and our mission intelligence remote monitoring. An industry-first that combines pioneering proprietary 3D digital twin technology with AI agents to eliminate blind spots and provide an auditable trail for proof of work. Hardware, software, and humans working as one. One team, one force. Now let me spend a few minutes on the brand. Because security is not sold, it is adopted through trust. and building trust at a national scale requires showing up everywhere, with clients, with the media, with communities, with recruits, and with Wall Street. This quarter, we sharpened our positioning. Nightscope is a managed service provider, the only company uniquely combining hardware and software humans into one integrated offering. We are building the nation's first autonomous security force. That message resonated strongly with institutional wrestlers during our non-deal roadshows in New York, and its momentum is building. The team has been hard at work preparing for GSX 2026, the security industry's largest gathering, September 14th through the 16th in Atlanta, Georgia, where we'll officially launch the autonomous security force on the biggest stage in our industry. If you're attending, come and see us. One more signal of momentum. In June, we hosted a career night at our headquarters here in Silicon Valley and there was literally a line around the building to get in. The best people in the country want to work on this mission and we're hiring the best of the best. With that, I'll turn it over to Apoorv to take you through the numbers.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Bill. Revenue for the second quarter was $9 million, an increase of 228% compared with $2.7 million in the second quarter of 2025, and a new quarterly record. Growth was driven by the full quarter contribution from the Security Force acquisition, in addition to our core ASR subscriptions and ACD deployments. Gross margin was .7 million, or approximately 7% of revenue, compared with a gross loss of .9 million in the prior year period. This marks our second consecutive quarter of positive gross margin, driven by full quarter impact of the immediately accretive security force acquisition and margin expansion across both technology product lines, demonstrating that our integrated technology plus services model is structurally more profitable than either business alone. Operating expenses were $13.8 million compared with $5.4 million in the second quarter of 2025, primarily driven by investments in R&D to support the development of our next generation technology, as well as increased headcount across all departments and the integration of the security force. Despite the 3.9 million increase in R&D expenses from last year, the acquisition improved our operating leverage by adding higher margin revenue and leveraging our existing operating infrastructure. We expect these benefits to continue and strengthen as we achieve our new product development milestones. Net loss for the quarter was 14.1 million or 79 cents per share. and others. This was primarily due to the higher OPEX highlighted earlier as well as approximately $1 million in other expenses related to the fair value and the change in the fair value of the contingent consideration or earn out due to the seller of the recent acquisition. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of 8.2 million. This is flat to prior year and with an improving cash conversion cycle due to the effects of the acquisition. In summary, record revenue, immediately accretive margins from the acquisition, expanding margins from maturing machines and network and service efficiencies, and continued discipline in expense management. The financial profile of the company is strengthening in step with the operational execution Bill described earlier. And now, we'll open it up to Q&A. So, Bill, what I'll do is I'll read the questions to you.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

Give me all the easy questions.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I'll give you all the easy questions.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

All the hard questions go to you, the really bad ones.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

We'll send an e-mail. So the first question from the Autonomous Security Force Strategy bundles machines, software, and licensed human agents. What are the unit economics? What is a blended ASF contract more profitable for a client than a standalone robot lease?

Oof. William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

Okay. I think we start off where humans can't do everything and technology can't do everything. Yeah. But that combination is extremely, extremely powerful. And so what we need to think about is how do we solve the problem for the client, not trying to optimize margins for individual discrete items. If you go pull just the contracts and the margins for traditional guarding unarmed, they're not very attractive, right?

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

They're positive, but they're not software margins. If you're able to scale software, you're 60%, 70%, 80% gross margins. Probably on the low end, you're 10%, 20% on the human guarding side. If you're able at scale, and we've done this. Remember, we did the analysis of our longest standing clients. You're somewhere in the 50%, 60%, 65% gross margin over that five-year period. So the Jedi mind trick is to be able to land with what a chief security officer would accept today, which are licensed armed and unarmed agents, and then over time become that trusted advisor. Hey, we've operated at your facility for quite some time now. I wouldn't really stretch the staff that way. You might want to consider, based on the data that we have, You might want to shuffle some things around and add some technology, maybe pay the team more appropriately. And over time, I want to see, and this is going to take some time to scale, but I want to see us in the 50%, 55%, 60% gross margin net when all is said and done. And again, we need to focus on solving the client's problem first. and stop, as I keep driving my team crazy, stop selling widgets. Don't, you know, please buy my robot, please buy my sensor, please, you know, hire my agent. We really need to focus on positive outcomes for our clients, hopefully significantly improved quality and over time reduce those costs. So the last bit I would say, it's deter. You want to deter negative activity before it occurs. And that could be a human presence, it could be technology. You want to be able to detect. Mostly that's technology where you're able to do, say, superhuman capabilities that a human wouldn't be able to process. Then you need to actually respond. You saying, hi, let me, all these alerts and stuff, and you don't respond or 90% of the alerts are false, kind of problematic. But the key here is the data wheel, is being able to learn over time. So deter, detect, respond, learn.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Learn.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

improve the algorithms, improve the technology, improve our standard operating procedures, and over time you become that much more effective for the client. And if you do that really well, that client will tell the next client.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

And I think part of that also is going back to the outcome. So unit economics work when we're selling to a traditional audience, and we kind of are, but the expectations are traditional. Oh, I'm going to go buy a camera. I'm going to go buy as a guarding service. I'm going to go buy access control. I'm going to go buy something else.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

And each one has its own unique, you know, economic... Or the cameras don't talk to the guard. The guard doesn't talk to the remote monitoring team. The remote monitoring team doesn't talk to the investigation team. Why is the chief security officer having to manage 8, 10, 12 different vendors? They're all very, you know, competent in invoicing you. but can you actually account for everything that happened with an audible proof of work and a track record of everything that happened at that location?

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, and I think that's what we'll prove out is that the solutions-based skills approach takes away the unit economics and focuses on outcomes. Next question is what is the appetite for additional M&A and what criteria would you be looking for in a potential transaction? Is the incremental revenue the priority or something else?

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, so this recent acquisition was the 25th of my professional career. Doing deals, as I often say, the deal part is actually relatively speaking easy. It's the day one and integration after is going to make or break a deal. So you got to be very careful what you pick. I think it probably sits in three buckets. The first bucket, there's probably... Somebody's going to do the research here, but plus or minus maybe 8,000 gardening firms in the U.S., plus or minus maybe 6,000 have more than 100 employees. I believe most of them are owned by boomers that are retiring. The kids don't want to take over the business. And the large big box staffing companies aren't likely to buy them. So you literally have an illiquid market, which is an interesting dynamic. for doing a roll-up. I think if we're a private equity shop, you'd look at the recent acquisition as you bought a platform company. You've got a growing company, a strong management team, actual results, and something that you want to build on. So I think there's opportunities for us to organically grow the security force. Maybe there's some bolt-on acquisitions as we get further along. So that's the first bucket. Second bucket, We've been actively looking at remote monitoring companies. This could be immediately accretive because that remote monitoring company likely does not have a security force component and likely does not have a technology or robotics component, but does have a client base, cash flowing, and could be highly synergistic. Again, we need to be kind of a little picky here, make sure we're careful, but we've been shopping for that I think lastly, we live here in Silicon Valley, 22,000 startups, as I often say, some of the most brilliant minds in the world, backed by millions and sometimes billions of dollars, literally 95% fail. And so there's all kinds of goodies and assets sitting around at any point in time. It could be a piece of technology. It could be a particular algorithm. It could be a sensor. It could be a team. So we're always on the lookout there. So those would be the three buckets. Continued inter-organic growth on the security force side, remote monitoring opportunities that are likely to be highly synergistic, and then the last one would be on the technology side, yeah.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I would probably even go a little bit to kind of summarize that if you think about our strategy, which is hardware plus software plus humans. We're really good at the hardware. The hardware we have, the humans pieces, we're working on that, and that's where the opportunity is. And the software is where the opportunity is because, again, there's so many people working on some really brilliant technologies and analytics and software that if we can find the right one to plug in, Why don't we do that?

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

And then, again, if you go on our brand-new Chinese website at nightscope.com, it literally says on the homepage, for you, the chief security officers of the United States of America. And so any decision that we would be making would be in your interest for us to build the most powerful autonomous security force offering to really fix the client's problems and, frankly, our nation's problems, right?

Next question. Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Let's talk about clients. Can you give your perspective on client retention, renewals among the legacy security force client base?

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

I'm sure this is not 100% accurate, but one of the reasons we made the acquisition was very rarely to zero have the security force lost the client. They may have fired a client, which is different, but The retention has been really strong there, I think, one. I look at our client base. We're now 434-plus clients across 42 states. If you go to our – there's a new investor updated deck. If you go to ir.nightscope.com, our new IR site, you can pull that down. I think there's a slide on there that reflects something to the effect of, If you take the top five of the 434 clients, their security spend is on the order of about $850 million. So what is the easiest sale you're ever going to get? Frankly, an existing client. So I've been very much focused on thinking through strategies and approaches on how do we leverage the 434 and see what Good We Can Do for them. And along the way, we've met a lot of folks that are struggling with the existing kind of setup. So there's going to be primary focus on existing clients with some additional new clients as we go along. But the opportunity is certainly there. It's taken a very long time to go build the foundation to make all this happen. But this is a unique opportunity in time and a unique company. This is a managed service provider for physical security that's never existed. And knowing what we know, let's just say everyone in the building is in good spirits, right?

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yep. Number four, can you expand on the meaningful synergies from the security force acquisition? This is it. This is it.

Easy one. William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

It was easy? Meaningful synergies. So I think we want to look at it from a few different angles. Obviously, you've seen the numbers. There's a significant component on the revenue growth. You know, triple-digit growth two quarters in a row is kind of not normal. And over time, Wall Street will begin to learn Thank you for joining us. In terms of the synergies, there's 434 clients. So you might imagine a large portfolio of nationwide blue chip clients that have only had security force kind of footprint, I guess pun intended, and no technology. So there's a significant opportunity for we already landed. Let's go expand and be very thoughtful about, okay, please tell us what issues you're having. not by generalities, that particular address in that particular location. What incidents have you had? What's the budget? Where are you struggling? How can we be helpful? Have you thought about X, Y, and Z? What's the lighting look like? What's the signage look like? Try to be that thoughtful, trusted advisor that hopefully we can win that trust over time and go expand with technology. Similarly, you're kind of cross-selling doing the other way. So we have a lot of clients that have only technology that have an existing security staffing model with a lot of the big box staffing companies and aren't too particularly fond of the quality of service. And so for us to say, hey, listen, we offer executive protection. We have armed agents. We have unarmed agents. We will be unveiling the H1 wearable here shortly, so we'll have augmented security agents that no one in the industry will have. How can we help you with that? So there's that kind of cross-synergy is really important. And I think the second one, the third one, first is financial, second cross-selling, third is just cultural. One of the most difficult parts of M&A is, again, not just the integration, it's people. It's people, people, people. And trying to get everyone in the same boat rowing in the same direction is not easy. Sometimes public companies have to do stuff that a normal private company would never do and vice versa. And so little by little we've got to kind of get that to work. But I'll say this in good form. The security force team is highly disciplined, command and control.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

follow orders, and off you go. The kind of original technology side of Minescope, Silicon Valley, Scrum, let's kind of pie in the sky, think about how we're going to do this, let's collaborate, and all this other thing. And for us to be successful, it's not one or the other. You actually need to think about how to do this Apoorv Dwivedi, William Santana Li and you can't just tell an agent to say, go be autonomous. Do whatever you kind of feel is right. That's not going to work. But at the same time, the security force team has so much knowledge, experience and relationships and insights from the industry and that influence on the technology, we're already seeing some benefits of that. We actually have agents here today testing out the prototypes for the H1 wearable. And so I think that's where one plus one equals seven.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I agree. I think on the top line, if you think about or go to market strategy, we're uniquely positioned to go after the outcome-based approach, which we think we have the right positioning to do so. Simultaneously, we've talked about this. If you look at the P&L below the gross margin, the OPEC side, which are already integrating finance, integrating HR. So those synergies in the shared services model internal to the corporation allows us to kind of do some of the cultural things you were talking about.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

And financially, I think it's also really important that in order to be public, it costs literally millions of dollars, right? Absolutely. And just because we add more revenue and more capabilities, more everything, We can now sweat the assets that we have. So a crude example would be like if we had solely one client, but we needed to remotely monitor the health of those machines and the security aspects of it, you still need four people to run 24-7, right? It's not – but if you added 30 more clients, do you need to – 30 times 40? No, you don't need to do that. So there's some scaling as we add. There's more efficiencies as we continue to scale. And you're not going to quintuple the marketing department because you quintuple the revenue, right? So there's a lot of leverage coming. And as we committed during the recent non-deal roadshows, every quarter is going to be better than the last. And that's a tall order. We've been working very hard, and we've got two quarters to prove it. We just need to keep at it.

Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Question on pipeline. Any thoughts on – I know we don't share pipeline data, but it looks like we're getting asked for some indication.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

I think the best thing for us to say is we have 434 clients. Somebody can go do a guesstimate with Claude or whatever. I might have done that. I don't know. There's not an auditable number because it's literally a guesstimate from AI. But those 434 is probably $3 to $6 billion of annual security spend. If 5 is 850, you can imagine it's somewhere in the billions range. So I think that's the most important focus. And then we need to focus on the technology itself. We've got an all-new K7 that everyone's really excited about. It takes time and money to go do that. We've got an all-new H1 wearable that's going to go on our agents and our agents only. That's going to also take some time and money. We've got the all-new Signals platform, a piece of software that's going to orchestrate everything, hardware in terms of the robots, the stationary devices, the sensors, plus our agents, plus our mission intelligence remote monitoring. That piece of software is an industry first. This is like literally we're going to remotely monitor a location in three dimensions. This is going to be absolutely... I think the last question is somebody asked, I would love to hear Bill's thoughts on when he believes the public will catch on and the stock price will rise. Oh, my. Okay. Like I said, despite all the emails, texts, and voicemails, I don't control the stock price. You do. So all I can do and the team can do is improve our financial performance of the company. We can grow the company. And we can communicate, communicate, communicate. The rest is literally up to the market. And I'll just restate what I said earlier. If you think about... where the company is going. We have all the pieces all now beginning to get integrated into one holistic managed service provider. We know that this is a massive pain point for this multi-billion dollar industry. And so if we just focus on fixing the damn problem, like you're going to get rewarded for it. So the best thing the team can do is continue to focus on execution. Topline revenue growth up, cost of goods down, careful with our fixed cost basis, scale things up and get the technology to do magical things that no one in the industry is going to be able to do or can do, and then put the numbers up on every Q and every K. And then the way the stock should respond is simply on the numbers. And that's why we... to look at the changes from all these years prior to what happened in the first quarter, what happened in the second quarter, and now start thinking what the third, fourth quarter, and next year is going to look like. We are building something extremely special, and all the pieces of the entire puzzle are falling in together, and I've literally been and this is not the founder being the founder and buying a glass half full or building a glass factory. I've never literally been this excited about Knight Skills Future in all 13 years of my career here. We've got an unbelievable team. We've got unbelievable technology. We've got existing clients. We just need to focus on execution. And on that last point, how you de-risk the execution side, You hire brilliant people.

Absolutely. Apoorv Dwivedi | Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

With that, I think this concludes our Q&A. I'll hand it back to you if you have any comments.

William Santana Li | Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Apoorv, for doing this. Let me leave you with this. In the second half of the year, we expect to deliver on these four things. First, initial K7 deployments in the fourth quarter. Second, The official launch of the Autonomous Security Force at GSX in September. Third, the initial launch of Signals, our software orchestration platform. And fourth, the same thing you've seen the last two quarters. So thank you to our clients for their trust, to our shareholders for their support, and most of all, to the absolutely relentless Nightscope team. One team, one mission, one jsPDF 3.0.3 D:20261009125745-00'00'

Research summary and source transcript

readyJun 10, 2026

Knightscope reported a record Q1 2026 revenue of $6.0 million, up 106% year-over-year, driven primarily by the February 27, 2026 acquisition of Event Risk (now NYSCOPE Security Force), which contributed $2.4 million in revenue and $400,000 in gross margin at 17.5% in its first 32 days. The company is transitioning to a managed service provider model combining hardware, software, and human agents, with integration progressing ahead of schedule and early signs of operating leverage emerging. However, the business remains unprofitable at the net income level, with a $10.3 million net loss, and continues to rely on external capital to fund operations and integration.

Management knows that the integration of the Event Risk acquisition is progressing ahead of schedule, with early operational synergies already contributing to gross margin improvement and net income accretion from day one—a fact not yet reflected in the market’s valuation, which still prices the company as a pre-revenue or early-stage hardware play. The shift to a managed service provider model with recurring service revenue and cross-sell opportunities represents a structural change in the business model that could drive sustainable margin expansion over the next 6–24 months, but this is not yet appreciated by investors focused on top-line volatility or cash burn.

Revenue growth from managed service contracts (combining autonomous robots, remote monitoring, and human agents), gross margin expansion via scale and operational efficiency, and land-and-expand cross-selling of higher-margin software and technology within integrated security force engagements.

  • Integration progress of the Event Risk acquisition
  • Transition to a managed service provider (autonomous security force) model
  • Development and deployment timeline for the K7 autonomous security robot
  • Government and national robotics strategy initiatives (including CMU partnership)
  • M&A strategy as a platform for inorganic growth in fragmented security markets
  • Path to profitability through operating leverage and scale
  • The K7 autonomous security robot’s progress and planned limited summer deployment
  • The vision of a 'one throat to choke' integrated security solution for clients
  • The potential for federal robotics mandate adoption and its systemic impact
  • The CMU partnership and national security robotics lab as a long-term innovation engine
  • The belief that the acquisition has created a platform for repeatable, high-quality M&A

Management exhibits a confident, visionary, and detailed tone, particularly when discussing long-term strategy, product roadmaps (K7, orchestration software), and integration progress. The CEO uses vivid analogies ('one throat to choke', 'Trojan horse') and expresses personal excitement, which may border on promotional, but is consistently backed by specific operational milestones (e.g., 32-day acquisition contribution, summer K7 deployment, GSX timing). The CFO provides precise financial details and acknowledges risks (e.g., going concern, need for capital), lending credibility. There is no evidence of evasiveness or overpromising beyond typical forward-looking statements in a high-growth small-cap context.

  • There may be at least one Q&A answer that needs manual review for a possible dodge or lack of numerical follow-through.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

The company appears to be differentiating itself through its unique integrated managed service model combining autonomous robots, remote monitoring, and human agents—a combination not currently offered by pure-play technology or traditional security guard firms. This positions Knightscope to win RFPs inaccessible to competitors, suggesting a nascent competitive advantage in complex, high-security environments. However, the sustainability of this advantage depends on execution and scale, which remain unproven at scale.

  • Q1 2026 consolidated revenue: $6.0 million, up 106% YoY from $2.9 million in Q1 2025
  • Event Risk (NYSCOPE Security Force) contribution: $2.4 million in revenue and $400,000 gross margin (17.5%) in first 32 days post-acquisition
  • Core technology revenue (ex-acquisition): $3.7 million, up 26% YoY from $2.9 million
  • Consolidated gross profit: $465,000 (7.7% margin), vs. gross loss of $668,000 (-22.9%) in Q1 2025
  • Cash and cash equivalents: $11.4 million as of March 31, 2026, down from $20.6 million at year-end 2025
  • Weighted average share count increase: 156% YoY, yet net loss per share improved to $0.74 from $1.28
  • Limited summer deployment of K7 robots to select clients for real-world validation
  • GSX conference in mid-September 2026 as a platform to unveil the full autonomous security force
  • Fourth-quarter investor day at headquarters to showcase technology and team
  • Progress toward federal robotics strategy adoption via ongoing administration and congressional dialogue
  • Continued integration milestones and cost synergies from the Event Risk acquisition
  • Expansion of managed service contracts through land-and-expand with existing technology clients
  • Continued reliance on external capital to fund operations and integration, with cash declining from $20.6M to $11.4M YoY
  • Gross margin remains volatile and subject to supply chain variability, not yet at a sustainable run rate
  • Integration of acquired business carries execution risk, including cultural, systems, and go-to-market alignment
  • Government robotics strategy initiatives are uncertain and outside management’s control
  • Customer concentration risk from reliance on a few large managed service contracts post-acquisition
  • SG&A includes $1M in one-time acquisition costs; normalized expenses remain high relative to revenue

There is no direct or explicit mention of data center infrastructure, AI training workloads, or cloud computing exposure in the transcript. The company’s AI agents and software are described as edge-deployed on robots and security systems for real-time autonomous decision-making, not as data-center-dependent services. Any AI/data-center impact is speculative and indirect—potentially benefiting from broader AI adoption in security analytics—but not a stated or evidenced component of the current business model or capital allocation.

  • What is the expected timeline for achieving sustainable positive gross margin at the consolidated level, and what specific operational levers will drive it?
  • How much of the Q1 service revenue is recurring under managed service contracts versus one-time or project-based?
  • What are the specific integration milestones and cost synergy targets for the Event Risk acquisition over the next 6–12 months?
  • What is the customer concentration risk in the acquired security force segment, and what is the plan to diversify?
  • How much additional capital is expected to be required to reach cash flow breakeven, and what are the potential sources?
  • What is the anticipated timeline and scope for the limited K7 deployment, and what metrics will define its success?
  • What progress has been made toward federal robotics strategy adoption, and what would be the financial impact if enacted?
  • How does the company define and measure 'land and expand' success in existing technology client accounts?

FY2026 Q1 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:KSCP Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 6/6/2026 Bill | CEO: Welcome everyone to Nightscope headquarters here in Silicon Valley. Excited to walk you through our first quarter financials for 2026. But before we do that, we're going to get into the overall corporate strategy as we move to becoming a managed service provider. But before we do that, report.

Lepore | CFO

Thanks, Bill. This presentation contains forward-looking statements with the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. including statements regarding night scope strategy, event risk acquisition and integration, expected revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, addressable market, and the company's ability to fund operations and continue as a going concern. Actual results may differ materially due to risks including operating losses and substantial doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern. the need for additional capital, integration of event risk, customer concentration, supply chain and labor conditions, competition, and NASDAQ listing requirements. Please see risk factors in the company's SEC filings at the SEC.gov website. Proforma information is illustrative only. Forward-looking statements may speak only as of today. The company undertakes no obligation to update them except as required by law. Please refer to the Q1, 2026, Form 10-Q for the complete disclosure. With that, Bill?

Bill | CEO

All right, let's get into it. We're really excited to talk about building the nation's first autonomous security force. That is a unique combination of hardware, software, and humans in an orchestrated format. So let's talk a little bit about the escalation levels and the model behind that managed service provider. Most folks may not know this, but 92%, 93% of alerts and the like are false in the security industry. So you're dealing with the teams are inundated with a massive amount of noise. So what we want to do is put that into a very thoughtful, let's call it seven-layer take, which has three pieces, autonomous, remote command, and a physical response. So let's see if we can, on the autonomous layer, basically have AI agents, autonomous robots, autonomous machines, and the like resolve ongoing items that humans really shouldn't be having to deal with. And then when and if a decision needs to be made, then you can move on to having that escalated to the remote monitoring team. The remote monitoring then can review, approve, deny whatever changes need to be made, and if needed, then escalate it to the human agents, be them armed, unarmed, or law enforcement. So we want to provide one managed service provider, again, combination of hardware, software, and humans. in an orchestrated format, and that's going to be a new profound opportunity for us to provide positive outcomes, improved outcomes, and hopefully lower costs for our clients that seek an integrated solution and dealing with a lot of fragmented items today. So visually what that looks like is basically what I just said. Hardware, software, and humans. So you've got stationary devices, autonomous machines and robots that patrol without remote control, and then augmented security agents that can then complement that entire solution. So one of the really exciting things about not only the financial impact of the acquisition of Rentverse is just designing and strategizing what that next generation security agent might look like. So we have a small team working on a very exciting technology to take some of the capabilities that are on our robots today and actually put them on person exclusively for our security agents to be able to not only have them do their jobs much, much more effectively, but then also provide that data into a really interesting piece of unique software that we're developing to get all of that combined into one field of view. And one of the other items similarly, not just on the human side, but the team is actively working on making very good progress on the K7 autonomous security robot. This is intended to patrol much, much larger environments at higher speeds and be able to really secure that perimeter. So all of that gets combined into one field of view. So one of the things that if you've ever had a ring doorbell camera or the like and you're looking at the app, you actually can't see to the left of you, you can't see to the right of you, you don't know what's behind. And that's what you're asking a remote monitoring security analyst to do. They've never been to the location, they've never walked the premises, and somehow they're supposed to secure the facility with one single field of view. And what that signals platform that the team is developing is to provide an eye in the sky view of the entire facility in three dimensions. So you're combining video gaming technology, digital twins and then all the significant amount of data coming out of the stationary devices, the robots and our augmented security agents to keep that digital twin up to date as much as possible so you can actually secure the facility and have that analyst be omniscient and omnipresent, know everything and be everywhere and we can be more profoundly excited about uh this orchestration software that we intend to release for our internal use here during the fourth quarter of this year moving on uh for the 2026 highlights uh thus far we're uh uh very exciting time uh we were able to put up some pretty serious numbers uh on the filing last week uh we've got revenue up 106 to six million dollars for the quarter and we're just getting started uh one of the other Wonderful opportunities with the acquisition is it now has all four pillars of what we want that autonomous security force to be all included and in place. So you've got everything from autonomous machines, remote monitoring, orchestration software, as well as armed and unarmed licensed agents. And all that integration is underway so we can have one single unified force. And the image that you have there was a celebration there for Autonomous Security Force Day, our first annual. So hopefully we can do that every year going forward on our annual corporate birthday. And the team is now very strong and growing. We're well over 400 employees. And that toast from that image was one team, one force. Very excited for what we hope to be a Blockbuster 2026. So building that first, the nation's first autonomous security force, this is intended to address that $230 billion total addressable market. And the strategic logic is basically add the increase the capabilities because technology can't do everything. Humans can't do everything, but that combination is extremely powerful, and this is that unlock for us to go after requests for proposals that normal technology-only companies would not be allowed to do. And this also is a very unique land and expand where we hope to become a trusted technical advisor to our clients and be able to implement additional technologies, again, to improve their outcomes and reduce their costs. So early validation, revenues up, we've got positive gross margins, and the strategy has a lot of traction. It's very interesting when the industry is excited, the team is excited, the board is excited, all our incoming recruits are excited. We're off to a very, very solid 2026. So with that, I'm going to turn it over to our trustee CFO.

Lepore | CFO

Lepore, do you want to take it away? Thanks, Bill. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'll walk through the financial detail behind the highlights Bill just mentioned. We'll cover the risk acquisition, the economics, and the operational performance of the business as a whole. Please note that the figures on our financials are unaudited and presented in millions unless otherwise noted. For complete financial detail, please refer to the Q1 2026 Form 10Q file last Friday. Now, again, you guys are moving. I don't know why it's moving. Can you put it here so we can see?

Bill | CEO

No, but it says slide 13. I think he moved too early. When are you supposed to have the acquisition stuff up?

I think there's an error. Lepore | CFO

recording on progress absolutely thanks thanks bill uh can you hear me okay yep very good hey uh good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us i'll uh walk through the financial details behind the highlights bill just shared uh we'll cover the event risk acquisition economics and the operational performance of the business as a whole uh Now, as we announced, the event risk acquisition, it closed on February 27, 2026. To remind our investors, we wanted to provide the purchase consideration. So the total purchase consideration in fair market net present value is approximately $18 million, comprising $5 million in cash at closing, the repayment of $1.1 million of seller debt, approximately $7.2 million in Class A common stock, representing 1.7 million shares issued. The balance is future deferred cash in contingent consideration. A working capital and non-compute adjustment of $1.4 million is reflected as an offset to the deferred purchase price. Now, on the top right-hand side, we've provided the accounting allocation of the purchase price. Important to note that this is preliminary and subject to measurement period adjustments. Client relationships of $15.5 million represents the largest component and amortizes over about 10 years of life. From a financial performance perspective, at the bottom right of the screen, in its first 32 days of contributions, the NYSCOPE Security Force delivered $2.4 million in revenue. $400,000 in gross margin at a 17.5% margin, and $100,000 of net income, accretive from day one. In addition, the acquisition resulted in about $1 million of one-time transaction costs to SG&A in the quarter. We do expect to continue to incur additional expenses related to the integration in the near term. Also happy to note that on a pro forma combined basis, the Q1 revenue would have been approximately $10 million versus the $7.2 million in Q1 2025, a 39% year-over-year increase. Turning to cash position, cash and cash equivalents stood at about $11.4 million as of March 31st. compared with $20.6 million at year-end 2025. This decline reflects approximately $6.1 million of cash outlay to fund the eventless transaction, closing payment and debt repayment, and the $1 million in direct transaction costs, as well as continued investment in the security force operations. Our at-the-market facility remains active and continues to support our liquidity and operational flexibility. Now, turning to the NiteScope combined company performance. Q1 2026 consolidated revenue was $6.0 million, up 106% year-over-year from $2.9 million in Q1 of 2025. This is a record quarter and the strongest in company history. Service revenue was $4.2 million, up 98% year-over-year, driven primarily by $2.4 million of contribution from the acquisition. Product revenue was $1.8 million, up 128% driven by fulfillment of ECD orders that had been constrained, if you recall, by supply chain conditions in the second half of 2025. Excluding the acquisition, the core technology revenue grew 26% year-over-year from $2.9 million to $3.7 million. Gross margin turned positive in Q1 2026. This is the first positive consolidated gross margin in recent history. Consolidated gross profit was $465,000, or 7.7% of revenue. This compares with a gross loss of $668,000, or negative 22.9% in Q1 2025, a $1.1 million year-over-year improvement in gross profit. The acquired security force segment contributed $400,000 of gross margin at a 17.5% segment margin on its $2.4 million of Q1 revenue. Core technology, the margin inflected to a positive 1.5% from a negative 23% a year ago, driven primarily by volume and mix. A note of caution, service costs do include 1.8 million of new contracted labor associated with the acquired business. This point forward, this is expected to continue to be a recurring cost line. While the inflection is encouraging, we are not yet at a sustainable run rate, and gross margin remains subject to supply chain variability. Total operating expenses in the quarter were $10.8 million. R&D expense was $4.7 million, up $2.6 million, or 120% year-over-year. This investment is primarily directed at new product development, including the K7 and the next-gen K1 portfolio. SG&A was $6.1 million, up $2.1 million, or 51% year-over-year. Approximately $1 million of that increase represents one-time transaction costs related to the acquisition, legal, accounting, and evaluation services. Other drivers include approximately $400,000 of additional investor relations, advertising spend, $400,000 of professional services, $300,000 of acquired company G&A, and $200,000 related to the new Sunnyvale headquarters. Normalizing for $1 million of non-recovering acquisition costs, operating expenses were $9.8 million in the quarter. 59% above prior year run rate, reflecting our investment in future growth. Now, on to net loss. The net loss for the quarter was $10.3 million, compared with $6.9 million in Q1 2025. The widening primarily reflects the higher operating expenses I just described, partially offset by the gross margin improvements and lower interest expense. On a per share basis, the loss improved to 74 cents from $1.28 in Q1 2025, reflecting a 42% improvement per share. Despite a 156% year-over-year increase, in weighted average share count. Excluding the $1 million one-time acquisition transaction costs, the quarter's normalized net loss would have been approximately $9.3 million. Following the acquisition, we adopted two reportable segments in Q1, 2026. The table on this slide summarizes our Q1 revenue, gross margin, and gross margin percentage by segment. These include core technology development and operations, which yielded about $3.67 million in revenue and $54,000 in gross margin, and the acquired security core segment, which added $2.4 million in revenue and approximately $400,000 in margin. Now, it is important to note that the two segments reported in Q1 are a gap requirement triggered by the acquisition. They do not reflect how Knight Scope is managed and plans to be managed in the future. As Bill described, once fully integrated, we plan to operate the company as a single integrated autonomous security force that provides managed services. We expect our reporting structure to evolve toward a product and services framework that better reflects how the business is run. For a complete segment disclosure, please refer to Note 9 of the Q1 2026 10Q filing. Bill, that concludes the financial review. Back to you for a forward look.

Bill | CEO

Sure, and what's next? All right, so looking ahead, the team has been burning the candle on both ends. On the K7 side of things, we've got a lot of great work accomplished still a lot ahead of us. We're looking at deploying a limited release of the K7 to select clients we have identified later this summer and to get some real-world deployment experience as another feed into the product development cycle. So we're making good progress there. The integration of This is probably my 25th company I've bought. The deal, as I often say, is the easy part. The hard part is the integration, the day one and thereafter. Fortunately, we have very like-minded folks and teammates. We're all getting to know each other. We've primarily been focused on a few key areas, but so far, so good. And in some cases, I think if you ask Eric or myself, we might be a little bit ahead of schedule of where we wanted to be. but still a lot of work yet for the balance of the year. GSX, we're going to be there in force. GSX is a major, one of the top two major security conferences here in the U.S. September, mid-September in Atlanta. We're going to unveil the autonomous security force as one team and one force with one contract. as a single managed service provider, literally something all new for the industry that's never been done before. So we're very excited about that. And then towards the fourth quarter, we're looking to have an investor day here physically at Nightscope headquarters. You can come feel, touch, see, talk to the team, see the technology up, up close. And obviously we'll invite all of you as well as our, bankers and analysts and the like. So look forward to doing that. We had a good amount of questions come in. For purposes of being a little bit more efficient, we condensed them down to a few key items. And I think the first one was to pour was around gross margin. How do you see that improving over time or what kind of pieces go into the puzzle here?

Lepore | CFO

Absolutely, Bill. I think, you know, obviously the goal is growth margin improvement. And we believe that growth margin improvement will primarily come from a combination of operational scale, improved manufacturing absorption, supply chain normalization, and continued integration of our managed services platform. On the technology side, we expect better utilization of fixed manufacturing and support infrastructure as volume increases, while the addition of the security forks capabilities allow us to pursue larger, more comprehensive customer engagements. especially as we think about a land and expand strategy that combines technology, monitoring, and human response over time. We believe that the ability to cross-sell higher margin software and technology in addition to monitoring and the autonomous solutions into the broader managed services relationships can help improve overall customer economics and margin profile.

Bill | CEO

I think the combination of humans and technology literally with AI is going to rewrite the economics for the industry and for us. There's all the stuff that you just spoke of, but there's also the not glamorous part of how do you get a security operation to run that much more efficiently? And us building an all new effectively operating system for humans to be profoundly more effective and in combination with a good amount of AI agents and hardware, autonomous hardware, I think is going to make for some margin expansion over time. But we need to build all that stuff out and then obviously integrate and deploy it. But we're heading in a very exciting direction. So that covers the first one. I think you had one on your side.

Lepore | CFO

That's right, Bill. I think, you know, kind of expanding on what you just mentioned about the integration of the humans and technology, you know, a lot of analysts ask about the night scope security force integration. Where do we stand? How do you see it kind of coming to fruition in the short term as well as the long term?

Bill | CEO

I think there's a – likely kind of three steps. I think we wanted to do them in sequence over a much longer period of time, but they've gotten the life of their own. So, there's the obvious, you know, financial accounting audit related items that are key for us to do our regulatory reporting and managing of the company. That has certainly been more than underway. We have a component of information technology and human resources. And how do you combine systems? How do you think about recruiting profiles, employee handbooks? There's a lot that needs to be done. And then the last piece, which isn't actually last, is the go-to-market. We've been experimenting on how do you propose something to a prospective client? How do you spend time with an existing client on the security force side that could benefit greatly from the technology and vice versa? Someone that's already a technology client of ours, how do we add the human element to, again, improve overall outcomes and hopefully over time reduce costs? We have like-minded folks, a lot of work ahead of us, but things are going a little bit ahead of schedule. I would say we wanted to take the entire balance of the year And there's some bits and pieces. There's always going to be issues, but we're working through it. So feeling good. I think to put it in Wall Street parlance, if we were a private equity shop, what we bought was a platform company, a really strong management team that's grown the business from scratch, knows the economics. knows the recruiting process, knows how to think about culture and recruiting the right team. I mean, if you think about it, most of these staffing companies, call them staffing companies, they're supposedly security companies, are 100 to 400% employee turnover rates. You've got to ask the question, like, why is our security force at 6%? Maybe we recruited properly. Maybe we trained them properly. Health benefits, stock options, and what we intend to overlay is a significant amount of technology we are going to end up with a superior and elite team to deliver all of this. So we're in good spirits, a lot of work ahead, but so far so good. That's a good idea, Bill. Go ahead. And I think the other question was around capital formation and cash burn and kind of long-term view, how should we be thinking about the business?

Lepore | CFO

Absolutely. You know, we expect to continue investing through the remainder of the year in areas that we believe are critical to long-term scale and competitive positioning, right? This includes product development, AI and software capabilities, operational infrastructure, and integration initiatives associated with the broader autonomy security force platform. In the near term, some larger customer deployments may also include a meaningful human services component as we establish and expand those relationships. However, I think that over time, we should expect operating leverage, improved utilization of our technology platform, and increased attachment of higher margin recurring services to help normalize and reduce that cash flow.

Bill | CEO

I think, put a different way, we're if we're shooting for a billion dollars of annual recurring revenue, you're going to have to make some key long-term investments in order to get there and kind of work with a few hundred employees, not going to work with a few thousand. Um, so we're making the right long-term bets on both the external technology that's out in the field, as well as our technology, uh, in-house to basically run the, the company. Um, our, uh, chief intelligence officers very much, uh, pushing the organization to become a fully agentic organization in the next few years, and that is literally rewriting not only the economics for the industry, but rewriting the economics and standard operating procedures and the like of what we do internally. Think about how one would go about building effectively an operating system for an all-new security provider that has – I've got a blog I'm working on called One Throat to Choke, Can you get one vendor to focus on hardware, software, remote monitoring, licensed armed and unarmed agents in one package so you can actually deliver what a chief security officer is looking for? And that is the groundbreaking corporate strategy change that we're really excited about so that we can, as one hedge fund said to me on a call, is, Oh, so you're basically almost like a Trojan horse. You're coming in with the normal type of security operation that most of your two securities would be accustomed to seeing, and then you're going to build, basically try to be a trusted advisor, a technical advisor, to then look at those operations, audit them carefully, site by site, not by client by client, and then prescribe the right technical solution regardless of if it's It's hardware, it's software, it's sensors, it's some other capabilities so that we can actually deliver on what the client's looking for. And that'll be the best marketing and client experience dollars we ever spend is to actually fix the client's problems.

Lepore | CFO

That's absolutely right, Bill. And I think, you know, we've talked about how, you know, clients, the fragmented solution model makes it extremely difficult for clients to get the outcomes they seek, which is I want to secure my perimeter. I want to promote safety. But I've got to cobble together, you know, different solutions from different vendors to make that happen. And I think this approach allows us to do so in a unified way.

Bill | CEO

Exactly. I mean, if you're a chief security officer, likely. you spent a significant amount of time in law enforcement, maybe SFBI or ex-military. You're really focused on physical security. And then one vendor shows up and says, hey, would you like this radar? Another vendor shows up and says, do you want this LIDAR? Do you use, you should use this robot? You should use this AI agent. Do you think this sonar is appropriate? And you're kind of only trying to sell your widget to that person who really is not necessarily fluent in the latest technologies for physical security and getting them all to work together. Your single point solution might actually work for this one little thing, but what they really need is support and help. If CFOs continue to cut expenditures on the security side of things and not giving the team the tools to be able to reduce incidents and the incidents keep climbing, there's literally a huge problem here, which we hope to be part of that solution. So I think the strategy sounds teams excited. We just need to focus on execution.

Lepore | CFO

The question came in, you know, based on this strategy and this path to revenue and margin growth. As you think about the broader, you know, strategic outlook, can you talk a bit about, you know, both commercial opportunities and how that's changed with this acquisition as well as in the new economy security force dynamic, government opportunities, and then M&A?

Okay. Bill | CEO

I'll take those in a slightly different order, but M&A. So I've done a roll-up in a past life, and usually a roll-up, if you don't know what a roll-up is, you basically buy the same type of company over and over again and make one big one. And so you look at a very, very fragmented industry. I think there's maybe 6,000 gardening companies in the U.S. that have more than 100 employees. Most of them are owned by boomers that are retiring here in short order. and perhaps the kids don't want to take over the business. Perhaps those are too small for the larger three staffing companies to buy them. So that becomes an interesting kind of dynamic. But we want to buy quality over quantity. So it's going to have to pass the Smith test more than just the Smith test of what we just went through with our first acquisition, and that's intended to be the platform to set that standard so that we can go after customers repetitive additional acquisitions. I think other acquisitions that we're contemplating and looking at, and we've said this publicly before, is on the remote monitoring side of things to see where instead of growing something organically, it might be better for us to do a bolt-on or a carve-out, so working through that. So we want to continue that inorganic growth and be very careful and methodical about how we go doing that. I think on the government side of things, probably a couple, two different aspects. One is, you know, we cut a deal with Palantir last year. The overall corporate strategy is I want cybersecurity to be actually not the cost center, but an opportunity for us to market things better. So, you know, long story short, can we get all our private sector, local, state, government to all have federal-grade cybersecurity? So there's one standard across the nation, and that's what we're looking at, not only looking, actively investing in, is why the expenditures for R&D have gone up and will continue, is to re-architect that technology portfolio and hardware software and how we operate into something that is federal-grade for the entire nation. I think that then brings cybersecurity to the forefront of... a long-term sustainable competitive advantage over anyone else in the marketplace. I think a second is the really hard one. I've been trying for a very long time to see if we can pass a national robotics strategy. I think there's enough interest in the administration and in Congress that I'm hopeful, and I don't control this, I am hopeful that something will happen this year. My controversial proposal which some people get really excited about and some people get annoyed, is the U.S. federal government has within its own authority to fix the problem. No one in Congress or the administration wants to lose the robotics war like we effectively lost the drone war. So what do we need to do? We need to kind of fix a lot of things. Some of them just simply have to do with demand. And so what I've been proposing is for the federal government to dictate slash mini mandate to force every department and agency that thou shall take 1% of your operating budget and you will use robotics and automation to stop wasting taxpayer dollars. All we're asking, we're not asking for the government to spend more money. We're asking you to use commercially available technology to improve the efficiencies in your own operations. If you do that catalyst, then likely you could, with one felt swoop, fix the supply chain issues and all these other issues that several different committees are all working on independently with, you know, one paragraph that I've already written and given to staff over there of how you would actually cure the problem. Big ask. I think there's enough interest that something will happen. I'm not sure what will end up coming out the other side, but at least the conversations are ongoing. So, And on that last point, maybe the eternal optimist, but in advance of hopefully that happening, we partnered with Carnegie Mellon University, one of the top robotics school of higher education in the entire world, to build a national security robotics lab here at Nightscope. And we signed a five-year deal with CMU. And we've already got five graduate students working on some cool whiz-bang stuff for the upcoming K7. But we're in this for the long haul, and we're making those long-haul, long-term bets. And we're in a very good position. I've never been literally this excited about the company's future. And so more to come, as Apoorva often says.

Lepore | CFO

Thanks, Bill. That's all the questions that we have today.

Bill | CEO

All right. Sorry, everyone, again, for the small technical mishap. We will be sure to get you a properly recorded version of this so you have it for your files. And thanks for tuning in. I'm looking forward to seeing you next quarter because there is more good stuff coming. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, everyone. jsPDF 3.0.3 D:20260606090210-00'00'

Research summary and source transcript

readyJun 10, 2026

Knightscope completed the acquisition of EventRisk (now rebranded as Knightscope Security Force) to transition from a pure-play hardware vendor to a managed service provider offering integrated security solutions. Management asserts this acquisition unlocks accelerated growth by enabling cross-selling and full-stack security delivery, though near-term financials remain pressured by supply chain constraints, underutilized manufacturing, and elevated R&D investment. The company is in a multi-year investment phase, with profitability contingent on successful integration, scale-driven margin improvement, and execution of its go-to-market strategy.

Management knows today that the integration of EventRisk is progressing more smoothly than expected, with willing teams and early progress on finance, HR, and IT alignment, and that they are targeting a GSX showcase in September 2026 to demonstrate tangible progress. The market likely will not see concrete evidence of revenue acceleration, margin expansion, or customer traction from the combined entity until mid-to-late 2026 at the earliest, as financial benefits depend on post-integration execution, sales cycle conversion, and scaling of the managed service model—factors not yet reflected in current financials.

Revenue growth driven by managed services expansion (ASR, ECD, Knightscope Security Force), supply chain normalization enabling product shipments, and successful integration of EventRisk to enable cross-selling and full-stack solution delivery.

  • Supply chain volatility and mitigation efforts
  • Integration progress of EventRisk acquisition
  • Shift from selling hardware to delivering managed security solutions
  • Technology development (K7, K1 capsule, signals software)
  • Execution focus as the key to future growth and profitability
  • CEO's personal excitement about the future, stating he 'can't sleep because I'm too excited'
  • Emphasis on the transformative nature of the EventRisk acquisition as a long-sought strategic move
  • Highlighting EventRisk management's track record, including double-digit growth and experience with Navy SEALs and law enforcement
  • Pride in low employee turnover (6%) vs. industry 100-400% and planned stock options for retention
  • Vision of creating the 'nation's first autonomous security force' as a unprecedented entity

Management displays a mix of earnestness and heightened optimism, with the CEO expressing personal excitement and long-held conviction about the company's mission. While acknowledging near-term challenges (supply chain, losses, integration work), they frame these as necessary investments in a transformative shift to managed services. Their tone is direct in discussing operational realities but leans into visionary language about creating an 'autonomous security force,' which may outpace near-term financial evidence. Credibility is supported by specific references to integration timelines, hiring, and event plans, though the emphasis on future potential risks appearing aspirational without near-term proof points.

  • There may be at least one Q&A answer that needs manual review for a possible dodge or lack of numerical follow-through.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

The company appears to be attempting to differentiate through vertical integration—combining proprietary hardware, software, and now human-delivered guarding services via the EventRisk acquisition—to offer a full-stack security solution. This addresses a key gap in their prior pure-technology model that excluded them from many RFPs. However, without evidence of market share gains, customer wins, or margin improvement from this strategy, the competitive position remains unproven and not yet demonstrably winning or losing relative to legacy security providers or pure-play competitors.

  • Q4 2025 revenue: declined approximately 9.8% year-over-year
  • Full year 2025 revenue: grew approximately 4.9% to $11.3 million
  • Q4 2025 gross loss: $1.6 million
  • Full year 2025 operating loss: approximately $33.8 million
  • Full year 2025 cash used in operating activities: approximately $30.3 million
  • Full year 2025 financing activities proceeds: $42.2 million
  • GSX 2026 showcase in September as a public demonstration of integration progress
  • Regulatory filings (10-Qs) starting mid-May 2026 reflecting early Security Force performance
  • Beta prototype testing of K7 platform in second half of 2026
  • Launch of K1 capsule at Autonomous Security Force Day event
  • Progress in supply chain normalization leading to improved product shipment timing
  • Continued supply chain constraints delaying product shipments and pressuring gross margins
  • Risk that integration of EventRisk does not yield expected cross-selling or go-to-market acceleration
  • Dependence on successful technology development (K7, K1, signals) to maintain competitive differentiation
  • High operating expenses from R&D and SG&A investments without near-term revenue offset
  • Uncertainty in converting sales pipeline into revenue, particularly for managed services offerings

There is no direct or explicit mention of data center exposure, AI infrastructure demand, or relevance to AI-driven computing trends in the transcript. The company's focus remains on physical security hardware (robots, sensors), guarding services via the acquired EventRisk business, and software for remote monitoring and signal processing. Any AI or data center impact would be speculative and indirect—such as potential use of AI in threat detection via their signals software—but no such linkage is discussed by management. The transcript contains no evidence that data center trends are a meaningful driver of current or future performance.

  • What specific revenue contribution from the Knightscope Security Force (formerly EventRisk) is expected in Q3 and Q4 2026?
  • When will supply chain constraints normalize sufficiently to allow meaningful growth in product shipments (VCD, K7, K1)?
  • What are the gross and operating margins for the Knightscope Security Force business on a standalone basis?
  • What measurable progress has been made in cross-selling legacy Knightscope technology to EventRisk clients and vice versa?
  • What are the customer acquisition costs and payback periods for the managed service offering?
  • How will the company define and measure success of the GSX 2026 showcase in terms of leads, pipeline, or customer commitments?

FY2025 Q4 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:KSCP Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 6/6/2026 William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope: All right, let's get going. My name is William Santana Lee, Chairman and CEO of Nightscope and here with our trustee CFO, Apoorv Devedi. We're going to do a little bit of a different format today. First, an announcement regarding this Thursday, then Apoorv will go through the 2025 financial results that we filed on Form 10-K. And then we aggregated a bunch of questions that have come in, including from the three equity research analysts, and we'll try to put that in a much more efficient approach to answering questions. So with that, I'll start it off with... We're going to have our first annual Autonomous Security Force Day and also celebrate our 13th year anniversary in business. I often like to say we're here in Silicon Valley. There are 22,000 startups here. 95% of them failed despite having unbelievable ambition, financing, and the like. And for us to be able to start the company, get it funded, grow it, take it public, buy two companies, and still be at it 13 years later is really a testament to the relentless nature of the Nightscope team. And I couldn't be more excited about our future as we build out the nation's first autonomous security force. So this Thursday, we're going to have several VIP private sessions for previews as to what we're building during 2026 and intentionally to get some market feedback. And then we're going to have an open house presentation. in the evening here in Sunnyvale at our new headquarters, and there's rumors flying around there's going to be an ice cream truck and a bunch of other stuff. So hopefully if you haven't RSVP'd, please be sure to check our social media channels or newsletters, and you can grab a spot there. So that will be at 6 p.m. this Thursday. All right, with that, I'll turn it over to Apoorv. We'll walk you through history, meaning 2025, and kind of what happened then. Then we'll talk a little bit about the acquisition and the questions and why all the excitement for 2026 and beyond. So with that, Apoorv.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Thanks, Bill. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining. I will begin with a review of our financial performance, first for the Q4, and then the full year 2025, followed by commentary on liquidity and capital strategy. With that, let's jump right in. Q1, sorry, Q4 revenues declined approximately 9.8% year-over-year product shipments primarily driven by supply chain constraints, which we've talked about in the past, that resulted in delays of VCD product deliveries. The services business remained materially unchanged. gross loss of 1.6 million reflects ongoing margin pressure driven by elevated material and other input costs for production and by under absorption of fixed manufacturing overhead these factors were consistent with full year trends and underscore the need for improved scale and supply chain normalization to drive margin recovery for the company Our operating expenses of 9.7 million in the quarter increased approximately 3.8 million year over year, driven by higher investment in both R&D and SG&A functions. R&D spending reflects the company's deep commitment to continued advancement of our next generation platforms, such as the K7, the K1 capsule, and the signal software. SG&A increased primarily due to targeted investment in talent and organizational capabilities, which are critical to positioning the company for future scale and growth. Overall, the cost structure reflects a deliberate investment phase to support long-term expansion. Q4 2025 net loss of $11 million. widened versus prior year due to a combination of lower revenue, continued gross margin pressure, and sustained operating investment. The quarter reflects a near-term financial impact of scaling the platform while revenue growth remains uneven. With that, moving on to full year. 2025 full year revenue grew approximately 4.9% to $11.3 million. driven primarily by the services revenue expansion in both the machinism service ASR offerings and our full service maintenance plans on the ECD install base. However, growth in the product revenue was modest due to the uh already discussed supply chain related constraints and shipment timing issues discussed earlier million increased by approximately 1.1 million versus prior year reflecting higher bill of material costages and production variability The lack of scale continues to pressure unit economics, reinforcing the importance of driving higher volume and utilization as we continue to grow. Full year operating expenses increased approximately 12.1% year over year, driven primarily by a $5.4 million increase in R&D investment compared to 2024. This reflects continued focus on platform development and next generation products to support future scalability. The increase was partially offset by cost savings in SG&A, expenses of approximately $1.8 million, as well as the absence of half a million in restructuring charges incurred in the prior year. This demonstrating progress in optimizing the company's cost structure while investing in growth. Full year loss increased to approximately 33.8 million. This reflects a combination of modest revenue growth, continued gross margin pressure, and elevated investment levels, consistent with the company transitioning to growth. Voted average loss per share of $4 decreased by approximately 63.5% year over year. Finally, From a balance sheet and cash flow perspective, we used approximately $30.3 million in operating activities during 2025, reflecting a continued investment in Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope: scale.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Importantly, we raised 42.2 million through financing activities, allowing us to strengthen our balance sheet and support ongoing operations. We ended presenting a significant increase from the 11.1 million of the 83% year over year improvement in cash position. Looking ahead, our focus remains actively on managing liquidity through a combination of capital markets access, operational discipline and strategic initiatives designed to improve cash generation over time. In summary, 2025 was a year of foundational investment. We strengthened the liquidity position, continued to grow revenue modestly, and made critical progress in evolving our business model towards a more integrated and scalable platform. While near-term financial performance reflects that investment phase, we believe the combination of our technology, software, and now human-enabled delivery capabilities position Knight Scope to pursue larger opportunities and improve financial performance over time. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bill as you go through the questions provided by our analysts.

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

Yeah, of course, I think there's some connectivity issues, so if you want to kill the PowerPoint and turn your video back on, it would be great. So while he does that, let me put things in context a little bit. We've been at this problem and tackling this issue of trying to see if we can make the U.S. the safest country in the world, utilizing technology, AI, robotics, electric vehicle technology, telecommunications, the whole gambit. And after working on the problem for over a decade, it's become obvious to me that the nation's addicted to CCTV cameras, security guards, and video management systems running on Windows and are unwilling to change or willing to change at a snail's pace. And so we wanted to try to be helpful to our clients to build a managed service provider that can take a lot of the technological burden, complexity, regarding the technology itself, installation, IT, cybersecurity, keeping things up to date, making sure it's all operating off of a chief security officer's hands and go to market with a complete full solution instead of having this disparate set up widgets all over the place that don't talk to each other and the like. And an accelerant and catalyst to do that was the acquisition of EventRisk that we recently announced. And that's a transformative and strategic acquisition so that we can go to market as a managed service provider to actually fix a client's problems instead of doing the mix and match. And that's one of the reasons we're extremely excited about our future. You know, we've been at this for a very long time. I've never been this excited to get around with the team here. It's like I couldn't sleep before because all kinds of problems and stuff. Now I can't sleep because I'm too excited. So the future looks genuinely bright. We have a lot of contracts signed and just focused very much on execution, both operationally and technologically. We've got a lot of new technologies that we're developing, and we're going to showcase some of that this Thursday. And these coming years are going to create literally a new kind of entity that has never existed before, a managed service provider that can be that nation's first autonomous security force. So with that, we got a bunch of questions in from a variety of folks, including our research analysts. So, Paul, if you want to read off the first easy question, we can get on it.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Absolutely. All these questions are easy. Excellent. The first one was basically, can you provide visibility on timing of supply chain issues clearing up? And basically, you know, are any supply chain disruptions anticipated due to the, you know, due to all the global conflicts happening across the Middle East and Europe?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

I think there's volatility prior in the system, still in the system, and I would forecast going forward we'll continue that volatility. So we need to better manage the volatility. Some of it has to do with tariffs, geopolitical instability, et cetera. Some of it has to do with an end-of-life component. And some of it has nothing to do with, hey, can you get the NVIDIA chip? It's the one specific resistor or button or what have you that ties up the whole thing, and it's not one strategic component. So this continues to be a whack-a-mole kind of problem that we're working through. We now have a supply chain manager and a team that's proactively working the issue. So we're starting to plan better, buy in advance, replace components, outright replace suppliers if needed. But to be on a cautionary note, we've had our struggles. I think we can try to minimize the damage, but a lot of it is not necessarily directly in our control.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

um so so we're working through the problem uh for poor vieta different take on that no agreed bill i think you know the the the volatility you know is is driven primarily by macro events and i think we're doing a lot of things internally to to mitigate as much as possible right the broader electronics market in particular continues to be volatile there's longer lead times tighter availability and items like compute modules networking hardware memory etc so I think those are some things that are just outside of control or control directly but we are putting in place a mitigation steps so things like you know making sure we're not relying on single source for expanding our relationships to multiple vendors, making sure that we identify items that have the highest risk and making sure that we have enough of those in stock, which is an investment in inventory. So there's a lot we're doing and we've been able to learn over the last few months that we're working through. I would say, you know, keeping supply chain production in sync is important for us and we'll continue to adjust as we things progress. We do expect that versus prior year, this year will have slightly better, if not much better outcomes as you continue to invest in supply chain and our relationships. All right, next. Next question was on the move. Is the move to Sunnyvale facility complete and up to operational efficiency?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

Mostly. Mostly done. We have a little bit of a challenging landlord situation with less flexibility than we want, but we're working through it. One of the reasons we're having this Autonomous Security Force Day here is to showcase the progress that we've made since we've moved into the building. Still a lot more that we want to complete, but things are looking pretty good. I will confess that some of us are nervous that we're going to run out of space a lot sooner than we were planning, but that's a good problem to have in the coming months.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Next one is on the recent acquisition. Following the event risk acquisition, can you give us an estimate of how much your potential market has expanded? Do you have an estimate around the new TAM?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

I've been wanting to do an acquisition like this for five years, so the TAM that we actually put in the investor presentation, if you haven't seen the latest one, it's at nightscope.com slash America. That $230 billion there is the TAM that we're going after and remains unchanged because this was kind of the overall plan. I think this is an unlock or a catalyst for us to be able to go to market much more efficiently and much more aggressively. So I think one of the enticing things that's going to happen in the coming quarters is just to see genuine accelerated growth versus the less than optimal growth that we've seen to date. And the idea is to be able to... maybe two different steps here. One, we have existing clients between the acquisition and our legacy clients. And there's a significant amount of opportunity to cross-sell technology or security agents back and forth. So there's that kind of literal synergy. And then there's the, once that's done, let's go to market together in a in specific verticals for us to be able to, again, bring a total solution. So the TAM doesn't change the amount that we can go grab after the TAM and do it in an accelerated fashion has, I think, dramatically increased. If you haven't heard, the team's well over 400 employees now, and we're on a pretty serious pace of growth.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Yeah, I agree, Bill. I think, you know, the way to think about it is not whether the TAM has increased, but more our ability to penetrate and grab a larger piece of that market share faster is definitely accelerated. You know, we've talked about this in the past where we've said, you know, Generally, when there are RFPs and RFQs out for security guards only, we were, for example, excluded from those because we don't have guarding services, we don't have humans, we're only technology. And then when we would try to go after technology, only RFPs and RFQs. Again, we didn't have a full-on solution, so it kind of limited us a little bit. Now, with the acquisition and being able to go to market in a way that allows us to provide that fully managed services or fully managed security services, it just allows us to go to market faster.

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

Yeah, and a little bit more context for those newer to that conversation. There are I think rough numbers, more than 6,000 guarding companies in the U.S. that maybe have more than 100 employees, plus or minus. Our friends over at Lake Street helped us vet the first hundred and we came across Event Risk and Eric Rose and a lot of special things about why we got so animated and excited. Having a combination of a serious operator who's been more than around the block has been able to work in large established guarding companies, helped train the Navy SEALs, Marine, law enforcement, and been able to grow and bootstrap an entire company unto himself with the team. It was an accomplishment in and of itself. If you add the growth, the continued double-digit growth that he's been able to enjoy over the past few years is another important bullet point. But another one that's very interesting, the industry's 100% to 400% employee turnover rates. The Nightscope security force is at 6%, very laser-focused on recruiting employees. Recruiting the right people, providing them health benefits, providing them the appropriate training. And in our case, we're going to be adding a few more things. The board of directors kindly approved stock options for the entire team so we can also attract more people and keep the people employed and engaged and have them be part of the winning solution here. And we're working on some new technologies to add. to those security agents. So in the future, you'll be hearing us talk about ASAs or augmented security agents that really don't exist today. And that allows all of that combined with The stationary technology, the autonomous robotic technology, the augmented security agents all having that data fed into our upcoming new signals software platform and our remote monitoring team is going to give an unprecedented capability to properly secure a facility. And our security analyst that's remotely operating then now has machines to do things autonomously. They can escalate things to a different risk level to have some humans involved. And then there's a response element, both armed and unarmed. and that's unprecedented in the industry and one of the reasons why we're in good spirits and more than rather excited about the future.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

A question on the sales forces and how we mesh them together. Two questions, and I'll combine them here. What is the overall sales pipeline expected for the ASR, the ECD, and the event risk, or now known as the Nightscope Security Force businesses? And then what is the timing around being able to sell legacy Nightscope with the Nightscope Security Force services together?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

I'm going to want Wall Street media and our own team internally to really stop focusing on selling widgets. How many of these units did you sell? How many of this standard stationary device did you sell? What we really need to focus on is aggregate total revenue growth of providing an actual solution to our clients. And that is the overall strategy for us to deliver a managed service provider and try to focus on fixing the client's problem improving outcomes, improving quality, improving service levels, and hopefully there's some cost reduction in there for a client depending on the location. But overall managed this much, much better than it's being done today and not focused on did you sell an agent or 10 agents or 100 or 300 agents with that contract or did you sell? The important part is are we fixing the client's problems? And that is a bit different now. and why the change in strategy is to force that change in adoption that's needed across the country. Most humans and most large organizations don't want to change. I told the Pentagon, DHS and Congress the same thing. This whole country does not want to change. uh even when you know sitting here silicon valley is a bunch of engineers like you hand them uh electricity fire and the internet uh in in terms of ai is like no no i'm good i know what i'm doing like i don't know uh i think we need to find a different path to to make those changes and give some relief uh to the chief security officers if you really put yourself in their shoes In this day and age, it was different 30 years ago. But when, you know, if you're ex-law enforcement, ex-military, you're here to secure a property, that's kind of your go-to skill mix. this day and age, hey, you know, can you please talk to me about, you know, 4G and 5G versus private LT versus industrial Wi-Fi? And then I don't know about the drone. And then is this cybersecurity compliant? But does the DOD accept the impact level five or is it a FedRAMP thing? And you want the robot to work with the guard, and it's just too much. You're asking a CSO to be the chief technology officer, the chief information officer, the chief information security officer, the head of facilities, purchasing, and everything else, and then we're wondering why it's not working and it costs too much money. So I really want the whole team, external and internal, to be focused on top-line revenue and bottom-line profitability as we get there.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

From a modeling perspective, will UB breaking event risk into its own reporting line item, or will it be included within the services revenue? I can answer that one, Bill. Really, TPD, we're assessing the right way to reflect the NISCOPE security force. revenues and line items in the business. Most likely, though, we do consider it to be a service, and we would want to include that in the services line. However, there are some gap rules that we're, you know, evaluating along with our auditors to make sure that we not only provide the right level of disclosures, but the right level of visibility as we go forth and draft up our 10 Qs and 10 Ks.

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

I don't think we missed part of the answer to the other question. The pipeline is rather healthy, let's put it that way. And we're intentionally focused on execution as primary drivers. So changing the recruiting profile of the team, setting the standards of the team differently, changing processes, figuring out appropriate uses of AI implementation for specific areas, building new technologies. Everything's very much focused around execution because the pipeline's rather healthy.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Absolutely. Next question is, will you be announcing the contracts of the NYSCOPE security force when they are won?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

I think that's also a TBD. As we mentioned during the sit down with Eric, if you haven't seen the interview, go on our YouTube channel. We want to take a thoughtful balance of the year process to Think through the branding, through IT, through HR, through finance, accounting, audit, technologies, et cetera, instead of rushing decisions. So that also applies to press releases, public relations, external affairs, government relations. and investor relations. So some will ponder and think through as the company continues to mature as a premium managed service provider.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Next question kind of tails right into that, Bill. Can you provide a timeline for integration? How is the process so far? And are there any notable items to call out?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

So this is probably my... I've lost track, 24th, 25th, or 26th acquisition. And as I often say, doing the deal is the easy part. For those that have been around the block, it may not seem that way for people that participate, but it is actually the easy part. The hard part is day one after you close a transaction. I will say it has gone a lot more smoothly than all of us expected. We have willing folks who want to work together, who want to make changes, who need additional support and changes. But as I just stated, the integration plan is try to get everything sorted in a reasonable timeframe over the balance of the year. In terms of priorities, let's call it finance, accounting, audit-related stuff first. probably dovetail HR and IT kind of the same time. And then the last is the go-to-market branding, marketing, and that sort of thing. We are planning to be at GSX in Atlanta in September so that you'll start getting a good – more than a sneak peek then as to how the integration is going.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Yeah, I think, you know, being super deliberate in how we merge the two organizations, primarily around culture, around go-to-market strategy, and obviously the back-end support needed to Support the growth of the combined organization are things that we're looking at. From a timeline perspective, I think, you know, it will take a couple of quarters, if not more, for us to kind of get our hands around how we want to move forward as a combined company. We are looking at internally some of the things you talked about, for example, finance first, just integrating finance functions first. then looking at HR IT, and then finally as we move into the client-focused or public-focused face of the combined company. Any outlook for any more M&A over the next year?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

So we continue to look. for accretive opportunities. Typically, probably around two or three subjects. One is on the technology side. Again, living here in Silicon Valley, there's always some interesting items that might be easier to buy than to build. So, we continue to look on the coal, just coal technology front. Those often may not be, you know, top-line revenue focus. It's more the nugget of talents or technology that we want. Another would be on the remote monitoring side of things. So we want to continue to build up the RTX capabilities as we build out the security force. So we're actively looking there. I think the growth on the security force itself is, as I said, healthy. So I'm not sure we want to do a bolt-on just yet, but we have a lot of activity going on. So M&A, open for business, but always want to make sure it's going to be helpful for our shareholders and the overall growth of the company. And be mindful and careful and make sure we get a good deal.

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

Last question, Bill. What are some key milestones should investors watch out for in 2026?

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

I can start. Maybe you want to finish. But I think the 10-Q that we filed in the second quarter that will reflect part of the activity from the Security Force side of things would be, one, the following 10-Q and then the following 10-Q. So I think keeping an eye on the regulatory filings starting mid-May. would be important uh maybe there are folks on the in the audience that don't realize this but usually when you have make an acquisition there's like this 71 day rule i'm sure i'm going to screw this up but within 71 days you need to file the uh kind of overall impact so we're working on that um and so that'll occur in uh in the coming weeks um probably in the in the may time frame um So that to us is going to be really important because that will show is the strategy working or not and is the company growing and heading towards profitability. Second, technology. This all gets very exciting if you can have a – pretty serious competitive advantage in a very large marketplace with capabilities that no one else can do. So, we probably want to keep an eye on the beta prototype testing actually occur in the second half of the year for the K7, which we're spending a lot of time on. When the board's excited, the management team's excited, the team's excited, our suppliers and vendors are excited, and all the recruits that we're hiring. Oh, by the way, go to nightscope.com slash careers. We've got a lot of openings. Are all excited and dying to work on the K7. Like, hey, maybe we're onto something. So keeping an eye on the K7 progress important. On the stationary side, we're unveiling the K1 capsule in Supertower here this Thursday. So progress there is important. And then also on the signals platform, I think those three things. that we can publicly talk about um or things to to keep an eye on so uh basically two answers to the question like is night scope uh doing well or not is the revenue going up yes or no and not based on press releases or anything else i want to see the regulatory filing is are the numbers going up yes or no and then or you're making uh serious progress on technology uh development that'll give us a sustainable competitive advantage i think those probably should be the two key items to keep an eye on almost before you've got another one?

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

No, Bill. I think, you know, at the end of the day, it comes out to, you know, improvements in execution and how does that reflect in the company's financials and the way we are perceived in the market and by our investors and customers and clients and vendors. It's really our ability to go out and, you know, grow revenue, And with the combined company, we have a theory that this will actually accelerate this. So look out for the second half to see some of that proof. Obviously, product launches and commercialization of our new product development that the team is working really hard on, that's going to be important. And overall, just watching, hopefully, as we do these things the right way over the next few quarters, especially going into the latter half of 2026 and then 2027, you should see improvements across all of our P&L line items, both on the revenue side as well as the cost mitigation side. And that's going to be the sum of all things we do from an execution perspective. If we do that right, it will show up in the financials.

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

And then I've gotten a lot of questions asynchronously here on – Hey, what does Bill and Apoorv and Mercedes know about running a guarding business? Well, keep in mind that the idea and how we approach this is very similar to how a private equity firm would look at it, which is basically we want to go buy a solid business that's run by stellar management. And then we give them the tools and support and technology for them to grow and give them the autonomy, frankly, to be able to do that. And we found that in event risk. The management team is very strong. They've been growing very quickly. The client retention rates are astronomically good. The employee retention rates are astronomically good. And we've got real hitters that we're betting on to continue to grow the business. And then what we're going to come with is technology then that will ensure that it's not a commodity staffing business of headcount the way it's kind of the industry has been run today. So, we're reimagining and re-architecting how physical security gets delivered to a client. And our initial interactions with folks that are in the know or prospective clients or in a pipeline, we know we're on the right path. Our focus right now is just heads down on execution. So the balance of the year to kind of wrap this up is focus on technology development, focus on growth, finish up the integration so that 2027, 28, 29 are hopefully some epic years for us. And again, we're in great spirits. The market, I think, is trying to understand what we just did. both on Wall Street and in the security industry. But the proof is going to be in the pudding. And I'm betting on this team, and we're highly confident that the future is bright. So, Paul, did you have any last remaining thoughts?

Apoorv Devedi | Chief Financial Officer of Nightscope

No, same, Bill. I echo both your sentiment and the team's sentiment in that, you know, we have a lot to do. We have a lot going on, and, you know, we just have to keep our heads down and focus.

William Santana Lee | Chairman and CEO of Nightscope

Lastly, I want to publicly thank our board of directors and the management team for the support in doing this strategic acquisition. Again, I've been wanting to do this for half a decade and finally got the brave pill to do it. And now I'm just kicking myself that we didn't do it five years earlier. But this is going to be a lot of fun. So hopefully for those of you that can join, we'll see you Thursday night for our first annual Autonomous Security Force Day. Please be safe. Thanks, everybody. jsPDF 3.0.3 D:20260606090212-00'00'