Research summary and source transcript
AMRC's FY2026 Q2 call is best read as a thesis-quality check, not a transcript recap. The upside case is that AI and compute-heavy infrastructure demand are becoming real drivers of customer activity. The key investor question is whether that activity converts into durable revenue, royalties, margins, and cash flow rather than remaining a strong-sounding demand story.
Framework #1 asks what management may know now that the market may not fully recognize for 6-24 months. For AMRC, the possible information gradient is whether current demand, backlog, customer activity, or AI/data-center engagement is an early signal of durable conversion rather than a one-quarter narrative. The transcript still needs follow-through in future quarters before that can be treated as proven.
The business engine appears to be license/design-win activity that later converts into royalties, with valuation quality depending on renewal rates, backlog conversion, and margin durability.
- Management centered the story on AI, compute, or data-center demand, which is the key thesis variable to verify in future quarters.
- Backlog and demand visibility were important to the quarter's credibility.
- Profitability and margin durability should be treated as quality-of-revenue checks, not just headline metrics.
- Customer renewal and new-logo activity are the clearest checks on whether demand is broadening.
- Management's strongest emphasis appears to be around demand momentum and AI/compute-related opportunity; the useful investor question is whether that enthusiasm is backed by conversion and customer economics.
The tone reads constructive but still needs investor skepticism. Management appears to have enough operating evidence to discuss momentum, but the call only becomes high-quality if the numbers support conversion, margins, cash flow, and customer breadth. Local fallback reason: model analysis failed during on-demand transcript rendering: Earnings call analyzer failed with status 403..
- There may be at least one Q&A answer that needs manual review for a possible dodge or lack of numerical follow-through.
- There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.
Competitive position looks potentially improving, but not proven. Customer activity and AI/compute exposure suggest the company may be in the right demand pools; the missing proof is market-share data, pricing power, win/loss detail, and retention economics.
- Key figure to verify: First, we had a record of $1.8 billion of new awards, driven by $1.2 billion for data centers and $600 million for our other key markets.
- Key figure to verify: We delivered revenue of $515 million and made meaningful progress on the priorities that matter most, executing well, expanding our growth visibility through record awards, and strengthening our capital position to support the opportunities ahead.
- Key figure to verify: Our total revenues grew by 9% while project revenue increased 6% to $381 million.
- Key figure to verify: As George highlighted, awarded project backlog increased 65% to a record level of $4.4 billion, increasing our total project backlog by 32% to $6.7 billion.
- Key figure to verify: increasing 21% to $76 million as we continue to expand the operating portfolio.
- The quarter appears to be moving from story to evidence: operating momentum is showing up in revenue, royalties, or backlog rather than only in management narrative.
- Customer activity looks healthier than a one-quarter spike because the transcript points to both retention/renewal work and new-account activity.
- AI and data-center exposure look strategically relevant rather than cosmetic, because management ties demand to compute-heavy end markets instead of treating it as a generic buzzword.
- Profitability is a quality signal here, but the investment value depends on whether margins can hold as mix, hiring, and customer concentration evolve.
- The main open question is conversion: AI or data-center engagement has to turn into recurring royalties, cash flow, and repeatable design wins before it deserves full credit in valuation.
- Backlog lowers some demand uncertainty, but investors still need timing, cancellation risk, concentration, and conversion economics before treating it as de-risked revenue.
- Margin strength is not itself a risk; the risk is whether that margin level is sustainable if revenue mix, investment spend, or pricing changes.
- There is enough downside language in the transcript to require follow-up on execution, timing, or disclosure quality rather than reading the quarter as fully clean.
The data-center angle appears investable but still needs sizing. The call connects the company to AI or compute-heavy infrastructure demand, which is directionally positive, but the thesis should depend on how much of that activity becomes durable revenue, royalties, and cash conversion rather than on thematic exposure alone.
- How much of the AI or data-center engagement converts into recurring royalties or repeat revenue within the next four quarters?
- What portion of backlog is cancellable, delayed, concentrated, or dependent on a small number of customers?
- Can current margin levels persist as mix, headcount, and product investment change?
- Did management quantify cash conversion and operating leverage, or only highlight revenue and demand?
- Are customer wins broad enough to imply share gain rather than a few isolated projects?
FY2026 Q2 earnings call transcript
NYSE:AMRC Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 8/9/2026 Tina | Conference Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Tina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 2026 Amoresco, Inc. earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question, press star 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. Please limit questions to 1 and 1 follow-up. We do ask that you limit questions to one-on-one follow-up and then rejoin the queue. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Leila Dillon, Chief Marketing Officer.
Please go ahead. Leila Dillon | Chief Marketing Officer
Thank you, Tina, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for today's call. Our speakers on the call today will be George Sakellaris, Amoresco's chairman and chief executive officer, Nicole Bulgarino, co-president of Amoresco, and Mark Chiplock, chief financial officer. In addition, Josh Baribault, our chief investment officer, will also be available during Q&A to help answer questions. Before I turn the call over to George, I would like to make a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. Today's earnings materials contain forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our expectations. All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Please refer to today's earnings materials, the safe harbor language on slide two of our supplemental information, and our SEC filings for a discussion of the major risk factors that could cause our actual results to differ from those in our forward-looking statements. In addition, we use several non-GAAP measures when presenting our financial results. We have included the reconciliations of these measures and additional information in our supplemental slides that were posted to our website. Please note that all comparisons that we will be discussing today are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. I will now turn the call over to George. George?
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Leila. and good afternoon, everyone. Q2 was a transformational quarter for Emoresco, highlighted by exceptional execution and strong financial performance. First, we had a record of $1.8 billion of new awards, driven by $1.2 billion for data centers and $600 million for our other key markets. Second, We closed our Neogenics joint venture with HACI, providing us with significant external capital to accelerate growth in all of our business lines. And we announced our first successful delivery of RNG into the European compliance markets. Third, we repositioned MRSCO into two core market pillars, and we are releasing a new rebranded corporate identity to reflect the updated position. And finally, we successfully brought online the 250 megawatt NAPONI battery energy storage system, one of the largest energy storage projects in Canada. And we energized the 560 megawatt solar project in Greece, one of the largest projects in Europe. Many of you have been anticipating updates on our involvement in the data center market. There is a growing demand for reliable power infrastructure and increasingly favorable policy for on-site power infrastructure, encouraging hyperscale customers to secure dedicated on-site power solutions. Combined with MResco's integrated capabilities, We are well positioned to deliver solutions that provide speed, reliability, and the energy independence that these customers need. During the Quora, several opportunities advanced to the point where they met our criteria for inclusion in our awarded backlog. Importantly, the projects we added to our backlog represent only a portion of our broader pipeline. As we continue to advance additional data center opportunities, we will remain highly selective in our partnerships and disciplined in our approach. We expect the amount of backlog added from these opportunities to increase as development progresses, project scopes are finalized, and they convert to contracted backlog. As you will see in our updated corporate presentation, The company is well-positioned to flourish in the current market environment. With our recent promotions of Nicole Allen Bulgarino and Louis Maltezos to co-presidents, we have positioned the company to address two core market pillars, power infrastructure and building and public infrastructure. This strategic positioning reinforces MRS's standing as one of the world's leading energy infrastructure companies focused on delivering integrated solutions to provide reliable power and modernize infrastructure. With a powerful combination of market catalysts and a robust pipeline of opportunities, we are confident in our ability to drive exceptional long-term profitable growth. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Nicole to provide some additional details about the exciting data center activities as well as other notable project wins and business opportunities. Nicole?
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
Thank you, George, and good afternoon, everyone. As George highlighted, Amoresco made significant progress with our power infrastructure business during the quarter. The backlog additions we announced today are the result of months of working to secure, develop, and advance opportunities with leading partners across the data center ecosystem. Our strategy remains highly focused and selective, partnering with experienced developers, operators, hyperscalers, and capital providers while concentrating exclusively on on-site power data solutions. This landscape is dynamic and often requires persistence and flexibility with solutions due to permitting, gas supply, and specific tenant needs. This is where Amoresco's decades of experience developing, delivering, owning, and operating critical energy infrastructure provides us with a clear competitive advantage. During this quarter, we added three new data center projects to our awarded backlog, bringing our total to five data center projects in addition to the Lelore data center in our energy assets portfolio. These projects further expand our presence in the nation's most active data center markets, adding both Texas and Arizona to our existing footprint of data center projects. Collectively, they will represent more than one gigawatt of power generation and showcase the breadth of Amoresco's capabilities. The solutions we are providing include a combination of reciprocating engines, gas turbines, fuel cells, battery energy storage systems, and integrated microgrids designed to deliver the reliability required by today's most demanding data center customers. These awarded projects also only represent a portion of the opportunities we are actively developing. We continue to see exceptional demand for on-site power solutions and are encouraged by both the scale and the quality of our growing pipeline. We are engaged with many of the industry's leading data center partners, and we believe our differentiated capabilities position us extremely well to capitalize on the significant opportunities ahead. We look forward to sharing additional developments as we continue to convert this momentum into backlog and long-term profitable growth. While the data center activity was certainly a highlight of the quarter, it is also important to note that our momentum extends well beyond this market. We also secured a significant amount of new project awards across a broad range of geographies, customers, and in-market, underscoring the strength and diversity of our business. These wins reflect continued demand for Amoresco's comprehensive energy infrastructure solution and demonstrate our ability to capitalize on the opportunities across multiple verticals while maintaining a balanced and resilient growth profile. I'll now turn the call over to Mark to cover our strong Q2 financial performance.
Mark. Mark Chiplock | Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Nicole, and good afternoon, everyone. Q2 was a strong quarter across the board. We delivered revenue of $515 million and made meaningful progress on the priorities that matter most, executing well, expanding our growth visibility through record awards, and strengthening our capital position to support the opportunities ahead. Q2 demonstrated the strength of our current operating model and the increasing visibility we are building as we work to execute the next phase of our growth strategy. Our total revenues grew by 9% while project revenue increased 6% to $381 million. This reflects solid execution across our core project business with strength in federal and North America and continued strong performance from our European JV. This was not just a strong quarter financially. It was also an outstanding business development quarter. As George highlighted, awarded project backlog increased 65% to a record level of $4.4 billion, increasing our total project backlog by 32% to $6.7 billion. As always, the timing and extent of conversion of our backlog will depend on commercial, permitting, procurement, financing, and execution milestones. This backlog provides tremendous long-term visibility as we expect to convert over the next three to four years. Q2 energy asset revenue was a clear highlight. increasing 21% to $76 million as we continue to expand the operating portfolio. During the quarter, we placed an additional 32 megawatts into operation. Our operating energy asset base now stands at 822 megawatts with another 513 megawatts in development or construction. These figures reflect Amoresco's 70% ownership interest in the Neogenics JV. O&M also had a very strong quarter with revenue up 29%. This remains an important part of the model for us because it builds naturally from successful project execution and creates long-term recurring revenue. We continue to see solid growth in our third-party O&M business, which expands the opportunity set beyond just Amoresco executed projects. We now provide service for over 2.5 gigawatts of third-party solar and battery storage. With long-term O&M backlog now exceeding $1.5 billion, this business continues to provide strong visibility, recurring revenue, and durability across cycles. Gross margin was 17.7%, a meaningful improvement both sequentially and year-over-year, reflecting a favorable business mix and strong execution. Net income attributable to common shareholders was $9.7 million, or 18 cents per diluted share, while non-GAAP EPS was $0.20. Adjusted EBITDA increased 12% to $62.8 million, outpacing revenue growth and reflecting strong operating execution, improved business mix, and the continued expansion of our higher margin recurring businesses. EPS reflected higher depreciation and interest expense associated with the continued growth in our energy asset portfolio. along with a lower tax benefit and the non-controlling interest impact from the Neogenix transaction. Turning to our balance sheet, unrestricted cash increased to $138 million with total corporate debt of $385 million. Our corporate leverage was 3.2 times, comfortably below our 3.5 times covenant. We also strengthened our capital position in Q2, securing $471 million of new financing commitments, including the $400 million related to the Neogenics transaction. That capital gives us added flexibility to fund growth, support our working capital needs, and continue scaling the energy assets portfolio in a disciplined way. Adjusted cash from operations was impacted in Q2 by the timing of project execution, billings, and collections. The strong revenue quarter included significant work performed ahead of contractual billing milestones, resulting in more cash being temporarily absorbed in working capital. Cash conversion remains a key priority for the second half. Given our strong first half performance, the visibility provided by our backlog, and the financing progress achieved in Q2, we remain confident in our 2026 outlook. As a result, we are reaffirming our full year guidance across all metrics, and increasing our non-GAAP EPS guidance. We are increasing our non-GAAP EPS guidance range to be $1.15 to $1.35 as we now expect a tax benefit rate in the range of 25% to 40%. The additional expected tax benefit is supported by our planned transition to a new accounting policy for transferable tax credits in the second half of the year. This methodology better aligns earnings recognition with the period in which the investment tax credits are generated rather than allocating the benefit over the life of the related assets. Prior period results will be recast to enhance comparability once we make this change. Looking ahead, we expect the second half to follow our normal seasonal cadence with activity weighted somewhat more towards Q4, supported by continued project execution, backlog conversion, and disciplined cost management. Now I'd like to turn the call back to George for closing comments. Thank you, Mark.
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
This is a transformative time for MRSCO as we continue to execute our growth strategy, positioning ourselves in some of the fastest growing and most attractive energy infrastructure markets. Our twin market pillars of power infrastructure and building and public infrastructure not only continue to drive our growth, but also provide greater diversification of the company's customers and solutions. And our decades of experience delivering reliable on-site power solutions uniquely positioned us to capitalize on the significant opportunities ahead. We look forward to connecting with many of you at upcoming meetings and conferences. In closing, I want to once again thank our employees, customers, and stockholders for their continued support and confidence in MRSCO. Operator, we would like to open the call to questions now.
Tina | Conference Operator
Once again, to ask a question, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, we do ask that you limit questions to one and one follow-up, then return to the queue if you have further questions. Our first question is from the line of George Generegas with Canaccord Genuity.
Please go ahead. George Generegas | Analyst, Canaccord Genuity
Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions, and congratulations on the data center wins.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Thank you.
George Generegas | Analyst, Canaccord Genuity
But regarding those wins, how are project delivery commitments structured from a risk-sharing perspective? Specifically, you know, what's the financial exposure or liquidated – excuse me, does Amoresco bear completion timeline slip due to equipment supply chain bottlenecks or deconation queues or local permitting delays?
Thank you. Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
Yeah, that's a great question, George. And we won't get into any project specifics because all of that, as you can imagine, is very sensitive to our customers and to the agreements that we're in. But be assured, as Amoresco and all of our projects would be very mindful and diligent about what commitments we're being signed up to or that we're signing up to.
George Generegas | Analyst, Canaccord Genuity
Thank you. And maybe a question for Mike. Any update on what's happening with Neogenic? Project Update, et cetera.
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you. Mark is not here, but, you know, since we did the partial sale or the partnership with Hansi, the relationship is going very, very, very good. So the development opportunities are increasing, and we're actually seeing more opportunities now, not only organic, but maybe some project acquisitions that they are coming to us. So the relationship is very, very good. And it gives us a lot of flexibility, great capital contribution into the company. And of course, we can use the capital to grow not only that unit, but as well as the other lines of our business.
spk03
I appreciate it.
Thank you. Tina | Conference Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Steven Gingaro with Stevo.
Please go ahead. Steven Gingaro | Analyst, Stevo
Thanks. Good afternoon, everybody. Hi, Steve. Hi. So I think maybe following up on George's question a little bit, when you think about the data center awards and what it means for backlog, does this Is sort of the cadence of backlog conversion to revenue, how should we think about that with awards of this size? And is it any different than kind of what we've become accustomed to?
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
No, it's a great question. It's not different than the other projects that we have in the backlog, especially the federal government projects. You will see that, A, by putting these projects into the award, we have done a great, great diligence. to make sure they meet the criteria that we put a particular project into the award category, and they've been some kind of customers RFP, so there's some kind of exclusivity agreement between us and that base, and they have achieved certain milestones in their development process. So that's, and then if you look at it, how we move from the award to the contracts in the data centers would probably seem between six to 24 months. These awards will move to contracted. And then, of course, once they move to contracted, you're talking 12 to three years, we'll actually implement the implementation schedule. But the awards are solid, and sooner or later, the time schedule, they will move into the contracted category, then, of course, the implementation.
Steven Gingaro | Analyst, Stevo
Great, thank you, and just as a quick follow-up to that, if I assume the margin profile is similar to a legacy activity, is that a fair place to start?
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Excellent questions, and the margin of this particular project is basically what we get for the EPC project for the federal government, which is in the high teens. Okay, great, thank you.
Tina | Conference Operator
Your next question is from Eric Stein with Craig Hallam.
Please go ahead. Eric Stein | Analyst, Craig Hallam
Everyone, thanks for taking the questions. Hey, so obviously a big highlight on the awards, the $1.2 billion, but it sounds like pretty optimistic in terms of the pipeline. So wondering if, maybe not specifics, but just talk in more detail of the size of that pipeline versus... The awards that you have now pulled in, that 1.2, and if there's a way to think about where those are in their various life cycle in terms of getting to the point where you could think about pulling those into awarded backgrounds.
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
And Nicole basically said that what we put on the award category right now is part of what the ultimate size of those particular awards were. will be here. So we'll see if that will probably increase. I wouldn't be surprised that we will get up to $2 billion associated with these particular awards that we have right now. Do you want to add any more?
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
Sure. And we're continuing. I mean, we're in this business hourly, daily, and continuing to vet opportunities every day and being very strategic and diligent about how we are partnering with new opportunities. We've looked at the, you know, hopefully adding additional projects as we continue to develop in this market.
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
And to live with more clarity, as Nicole pointed out in her script, there are five opportunities in exploring the LIMOR, which is an asset base. And we're looking at at least that many more.
Eric Stein | Analyst, Craig Hallam
Got it. And then maybe for my follow up, just Obviously, Neogenics, a very successful setup and structure there. And maybe not exact, but as you think about these data center opportunities and that they are very sizable, is there some structure kind of more along those lines that could help maybe speed up or just increase the amount that you can handle from a financing perspective?
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
You're right on track. We were very successful with Neogenics, and we learned a lot, too, in the process of doing them. And the data center opportunity is very, very large, and it will require a substantial amount of capital. And we will be looking into the opportunity, and if the multiples are right, the right part comes along, and so on. We will do it. There is nothing specific to announce at this point in time, but it could be a great, great opportunity for us doing another vehicle like Neogenics.
spk03
Okay.
Thank you. Tina | Conference Operator
Your next question is from the line of Noah Kay with Oppenheimer & Company.
Please go ahead. Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Hi, folks. Good afternoon. George and all this transformational. And I just need to take a step back for a bit and recognize that I believe this quarterly award is almost double any of your previous quarters in your history. It's remarkable. So congratulations. And I want to kind of ask a high level question, which is obviously behind the meter, you know, in time, the power becoming a key factor. Thank you for that consideration for a lot of developers. I can see that's really the solution that you're architecting here. But can you just take us through how you won these awards? Who the customers are? Obviously, we're not expecting you to name them, but are they hypers? Are they neos? Are they government? And with the understanding that as you build these critical relationships, there's opportunity for a lot of future.
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Nicole worked very hard in order to get them, so I will let Nicole.
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
No, I mean, thanks. And as we shared in the previous earnings calls, I mean, our reputation with the federal government has been served as well as a great entry point into this market because we've been basically serving as the utility in the federal government space for decades now. And now getting in there and we're working with, you know, not only data center operators, but also hyperscalers, neoclouds and also just getting in through commercial real estate developers that had played in this market before, just now having the added power side to this, which was different than what maybe they had done before. So we like what our delivery model is and that we are bringing integrated energy solutions to it. So we're integrating different types of assets together and being able to have the ability to microgrid these. And that's been a unique offering for us. So that's a little bit more into what we're doing. And I just think that the opportunity with our experience and our flexibility in what we're offering has served us well with the different players in this ecosystem.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Thanks, Nicole. And so just to confirm that I heard you correctly, so the customers for these data center projects, they now include hypers and neoclouds, is that correct?
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
They are part of the deals, yes.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
all right and just last follow-up you know I guess maybe um help us understand where you're at in the process of securing supply for some of those long lead items and have you already placed orders for the receipts and and some of the key equipment we have not been placing orders yet for these projects because they're still in our awarded develop our awarded pipeline and that's not been the the model that we've chosen to do for this for this market but we are in you know we are working in Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President: so finalizing the equipment selection with our partners. And that's just where we are. So they're at different phases in that development, but far enough along that we move them into the awarded pipeline and then we'll continue to develop these to convert them into the contracts and then placing equipment.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Yeah, that timing makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
spk03
Thanks, Noah.
Tina | Conference Operator
Your next question is from Ryan Thanks with Bay Riley Securities.
Please go ahead. Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on progress here. Hey, George. George, you touched on it a little earlier, but could you talk more about the potential revenue cadence for Amoresco for a project that comes online in 2028, 29, or 2030?
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, let's say a typical project, a federal government project. Once we get the award, some selection by the federal government, then we do the detail engineering and orates and so on and negotiate the scope with the government. And usually it takes about 24 months, I mean, 12 to 24 months to get the award to contracts. And once it gets contracted, some of the projects, they have one year timeline, but if it's a Thank you for joining us. that they have achieved. And the hyperscalers and the developers, they move a little bit faster than the federal government, plus they need this stuff.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
You know, there is a self-emergency that they get this power up as soon as possible. Got it. Appreciate that. And then somewhat related, can you just remind us where – The Cyrus One project fits in with regards to awarded or contracted backlog for you guys. And is there anything to share on how that's progressing at the Naval Air Station?
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
Sure. L'Amour is still in our awarded backlog. And it's like any of the projects we've been talking about. It has the development timeline of 12 to 24 months. So we're just moving along in that development right now.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Great, I appreciate it, guys.
I'll turn it back. Tina | Conference Operator
Okay, and once again, as a reminder, press star one to ask a question. Again, that is star one. Your next question comes from Joseph Uscha with Guggenheim Partners.
Please go ahead. Joseph Uscha | Analyst, Guggenheim Partners
Thank you, and congratulations, everyone, on such a strong result. I have two related questions. First... And these came up once already, but how should we think about this six project pipeline? And is most of this ultimately just going to show up as gain on sale? Or could some of this end up being at least partially capitalized to your own balance sheet? And then the second question, Nicole, this is kind of a geeky one for you. Are you seeing on the storage side, are most of the deployments you're seeing kind of short duration power quality? types of deployments, or are you seeing longer, kind of multi-hour deployments focused on more resilience?
Thank you. Josh Baribault | Chief Investment Officer
This is Josh. I'll answer your first question. The data center opportunities are expected to be our normal EPC revenue recognition, percent complete, in accordance with our spend. It's not an asset sale, or there's no different balance sheet treatment than any of our other project business. Nicole, on the duration and whatnot.
Joseph Uscha | Analyst, Guggenheim Partners
This will be This will be straight EPC revenue.
Correct. Yeah. Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
Yeah. And that's a great question. Not too geeky on the other one because it's an important one. And the battery storage in these space for these will probably, I mean, it really depends on the site, but for both. One is for the resiliency for when you're doing maintenance or upsets. The other side of that is really just to stabilize the load shift from the varying, especially with the AI load profile. And so it would be combination.
Joseph Uscha | Analyst, Guggenheim Partners
So can you just with that in mind as a follow-up, what's the typical duration that you're seeing on storage? Is it an hour, two hours, four hours? Two hours. Two hours. Two hours. All right.
spk03
Got it. Got it. Thank you very much, Nicole.
Tina | Conference Operator
And your next question comes from the line of Craig Shear with Tui Brothers.
Please go ahead. Craig Shear | Analyst, Tui Brothers
Good afternoon. So congratulations on the expanding awarded pipeline. In response to Eric's question, the comment was made, George, that you had maybe another five potential counterparties projects on top of the five that are already in the awarded backlog. Are all of these roughly about the same in terms of revenue and the size of the projects on average, or are you seeing them increase over time? How would you look at the pipeline outside of the awarded projects so far?
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
I think they're all, I mean, we're seeing similar. I mean, some are, depending on which ones we're looking at, but some are like smaller phases. Others are phased out campuses. and we're maybe playing a part of one of those phases or we may be playing all of the phases. So it really depends on the project. But I'd say that there would all be similar technologies that we mentioned before, combination of reciprocating engines, fuel cells for some of the earlier deployment ones just for seed to power and then some of the longer out there phases using combined cycle gas turbines and just simple gas cycle gas turbines.
George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Well, one other thing that I want to add, so it gives you a little bit better perspective, guys, the opportunity with these data centers. These five ones that we are talking about does not include the federal government basis that they are going out, and we have the enhanced list uses. And we have five of them. On that five, though, it's Lee Moore, which announced before, and the other one is Pearl Harbor. There's considerable potential. And the fact is, because people are beginning to realize that in order for them to be successful and win the AI race, they have to develop their own power plants, on-site generation. And that's why we came into the picture. And our track record with the federal government building these resiliency power plants with microgrids and so on, it's helping us a lot. And we're getting great traction in the marketplace.
Craig Shear | Analyst, Tui Brothers
Gotcha. And last clarification, I believe both Stephen and Ryan asked about the timeline of awards. I think, George, you mentioned that the time, you know, maybe to lock in to whether it's six 24-plus months to firm contracts. And then you said it could take three years for bulky projects to be completed George Sakellaris | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer: Up to three years, let's say we have to build 500 megawatt to one gigawatt power plant on a particular data center that might have three or four phases. And that's what's happening. Some of them, and that's why we said we think that the ones that we have, they will become larger because they have several phases. So phase one might take six months to a year, phase two another year or so. and so on. That's why I gave the perspective up to three years. And the other one, I think it's important to give you a little bit more color, guys. We said six months to 24 months. So most likely we will not see a big impact coming from the data centers till 28 and beyond, between 28 to 30. You might see a small impact next year, but the major impact will be 28 to 30. And why we're so excited, though, about it, because the awarded projects give you the early indication where we're going to be two to three years down the road.
Craig Shear | Analyst, Tui Brothers
Yeah, gotcha. And when we're in the 2028 and beyond, and you've got these mega projects that are lasting two to three years, several phases, is it reasonable to think that they're kind of evenly distributed in terms of revenue and margin across the years that they're live?
Josh Baribault | Chief Investment Officer
Yeah, it's probably a little too soon, especially, I mean, the shape of any construction project tends to be a little bit front-end loaded as we're placing equipment orders and doing some of the heavy mobilization. But since we now have six of these projects going on, there could be, you sort of get maybe a potential smoothing, but it's a little early for that to give you an exact rule of thumb of what the revenue would look like.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
All right.
Josh Baribault | Chief Investment Officer
Fair enough.
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
Thank you very much. Yeah, I was just going to ask, we're all so excited that after the construction with all of these, there's a significant operation and maintenance stream associated with it. So as Mark pointed out in our earnings script, we have, you know, that's one place that we've always been focused on building that recurring revenue, which these would certainly present that opportunity.
Craig Shear | Analyst, Tui Brothers
Perfect.
Tina | Conference Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from Swetha. Richa with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Please go ahead. Swetha Richa | Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Hi, Shweta here on behalf of Manish. Congrats to you, Nicole, and the entire team on the new auto win. A couple of more follow-ups on BP wins. I guess you'll be getting a few of those. First, are there three new wins affiliated to the two that were already booked? Nicole, I know you also walked us through the process of winning these bids earlier, but to the extent possible, can you help us qualify if these underlying customers are hyperscalers, co-location operators, or non-hyperscale users? And I think one more question on DC, which is kind of very topical and it will also really help us understand is how you're thinking about risk when it comes to and many more. So I think that's a really good question. I think that's a really good question. So I think that's a really good question. So I think that's a really good question. So I think that's a really good question.
Nicole Bulgarino | Co-President
So I think that's a really good question. So I think that's a really good question. a large set of those that are all playing in this market. As far as the risk, I would say, I mean, we've been working for federal government and for utilities for quite so many years, so similar risk for any time when you're taking on building and developing these large infrastructure projects. it's a similar risk type of profile. And what we're trying to do to mitigate some of the risk in development is making sure that we've been strategic about who we're partnering with upfront and the work that they've done already, picking partners that have had local strong relations in that community, customers that have been in this market before, and certainly our strategy by working on federal government lands where it has a lot less of that outside community risk as well. So those are all things that we've been doing and why we've been working on this for the past months on this to make sure that we have qualified these.
Swetha Richa | Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Thank you. That's certainly very helpful. And second, if I may, given the robust pipeline, how should we think about guidance? As in, what would it take for us to now raise the guidance from here?
Mark Chiplock | Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, so for 2026, you know, what we have visibility to from the data centers we've already baked in, and obviously we've reaffirmed that. So we're feeling pretty good about that. We don't expect it to have too significant an impact, but what we do feel comfortable with, we've already baked into guidance for 2026.
Noah Kay | Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company
Thank you, guys.
Tina | Conference Operator
That's awesome. Thanks. And with no further questions in queue, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you very much for joining us today. You may now disconnect. jsPDF 3.0.3 D:20260809225243-00'00'
