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ALMU's FY2026 Q3 call is best read as a thesis-quality check, not a transcript recap. The upside case is that AI and compute-heavy infrastructure demand are becoming real drivers of customer activity. The key investor question is whether that activity converts into durable revenue, royalties, margins, and cash flow rather than remaining a strong-sounding demand story.

Framework #1 asks what management may know now that the market may not fully recognize for 6-24 months. For ALMU, the possible information gradient is whether current demand, backlog, customer activity, or AI/data-center engagement is an early signal of durable conversion rather than a one-quarter narrative. The transcript still needs follow-through in future quarters before that can be treated as proven.

The business engine appears to be license/design-win activity that later converts into royalties, with valuation quality depending on renewal rates, backlog conversion, and margin durability.

  • Management centered the story on AI, compute, or data-center demand, which is the key thesis variable to verify in future quarters.
  • Backlog and demand visibility were important to the quarter's credibility.
  • Margin quality remains a follow-up topic because the transcript does not resolve it.
  • Customer renewal and new-logo activity are the clearest checks on whether demand is broadening.
  • Management's strongest emphasis appears to be around demand momentum and AI/compute-related opportunity; the useful investor question is whether that enthusiasm is backed by conversion and customer economics.

The tone reads constructive but still needs investor skepticism. Management appears to have enough operating evidence to discuss momentum, but the call only becomes high-quality if the numbers support conversion, margins, cash flow, and customer breadth. Local fallback reason: model analysis failed during on-demand transcript rendering: Earnings call analyzer failed with status 403..

  • There may be at least one Q&A answer that needs manual review for a possible dodge or lack of numerical follow-through.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

Competitive position looks potentially improving, but not proven. Customer activity and AI/compute exposure suggest the company may be in the right demand pools; the missing proof is market-share data, pricing power, win/loss detail, and retention economics.

  • Key figure to verify: In response, NVIDIA made three investments each of $2 billion in Lumentum, Coherent, and Marvell to secure supply of key components, especially lasers, and $3.2 billion in Corning for components and packaging.
  • Key figure to verify: As mentioned in our last call, the top four hyperscalers invested more than $300 billion in data center CapEx in 2025.
  • Key figure to verify: This number will approach $700 billion in 2026 and is expected to surpass $1 trillion in 2029.
  • Key figure to verify: Optical networking will be approximately 15% of this investment.
  • Key figure to verify: We have met this goal, having secured six contracts to date, totaling well over 5 million in value.
  • The quarter appears to be moving from story to evidence: operating momentum is showing up in revenue, royalties, or backlog rather than only in management narrative.
  • Customer activity looks healthier than a one-quarter spike because the transcript points to both retention/renewal work and new-account activity.
  • AI and data-center exposure look strategically relevant rather than cosmetic, because management ties demand to compute-heavy end markets instead of treating it as a generic buzzword.
  • The transcript gives limited margin evidence, so the quality of revenue still needs corroboration from gross margin, operating leverage, and cash conversion.
  • The main open question is conversion: AI or data-center engagement has to turn into recurring royalties, cash flow, and repeatable design wins before it deserves full credit in valuation.
  • Backlog lowers some demand uncertainty, but investors still need timing, cancellation risk, concentration, and conversion economics before treating it as de-risked revenue.
  • Margin durability remains under-evidenced, which matters because revenue growth without operating leverage can be a weak small-cap signal.
  • There is enough downside language in the transcript to require follow-up on execution, timing, or disclosure quality rather than reading the quarter as fully clean.

The data-center angle appears investable but still needs sizing. The call connects the company to AI or compute-heavy infrastructure demand, which is directionally positive, but the thesis should depend on how much of that activity becomes durable revenue, royalties, and cash conversion rather than on thematic exposure alone.

  • How much of the AI or data-center engagement converts into recurring royalties or repeat revenue within the next four quarters?
  • What portion of backlog is cancellable, delayed, concentrated, or dependent on a small number of customers?
  • Can current margin levels persist as mix, headcount, and product investment change?
  • Did management quantify cash conversion and operating leverage, or only highlight revenue and demand?
  • Are customer wins broad enough to imply share gain rather than a few isolated projects?

FY2026 Q3 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:ALMU Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 10/9/2026 Operator | Conference Operator: Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Illuma's third quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Alex Vialta, Illuma Investor Relations.

Please go ahead. Alex Vialta | Investor Relations, Illuma

Good afternoon and welcome to Illuma's third quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. I'm here today with founder and CEO Dr. Jonathan Clampkin and CFO Christopher Stewart. Today's discussions and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the earnings press release issued today along with the reports filled with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. These reports, along with today's earnings release, can be found under the Investors section of our website. ALUMA assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Throughout the discussion, the company will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in our earnings press release and SEC filings. Now, I'll turn the call over to Illuma's CEO, Jonathan Clampkin.

Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Alex, and thank you all for joining today's call. Today, I'll begin with a recap of the Optical Fiber Communication Conference, or OFC, which took place this March in Los Angeles, and how Illuma's engagements in the AI Datacom market have accelerated. OFC is the premier optical networking and communication conference. And this year, there was a notable emphasis on the massive build-out of data centers for AI. Data center CapEx investments continue to surge. This has placed an historic demand on high performance photonics for interconnects, and the supply chain wasn't prepared. In response, NVIDIA made three investments each of $2 billion in Lumentum, Coherent, and Marvell to secure supply of key components, especially lasers, and $3.2 billion in Corning for components and packaging. Major laser suppliers are sold out. Therefore, investments are being made to scale indium phosphide fab capacity. However, some major hurdles stand in the way. First, adding fab capacity may require several years. Second, although efforts are being made to transition to 6-inch indium phosphide, many claim this won't provide sufficient supply to meet market demand. And last, there is a major shortage of indium phosphide substrates of all sizes. Suppliers are sold out for years, with only limited increase in capacity expected in the near term, and geopolitics adding a degree of uncertainty. When we commenced operations in 2021, we shared foresight with the investment community. We stated that indium was in short supply, that indium phosphide substrates were too small, expensive, and fragile, and that indium phosphide manufacturing doesn't scale to large volumes. We suggested a different path to address the future needs of Datacom and consumer electronics. Don't use indium phosphide substrates. put the detector and laser materials on lower cost, larger diameter substrates, and leverage volume microelectronics manufacturing. GaN on silicon became a mainstream technology for power electronics. Why not work toward indium phosphate on silicon? So we put our heads down to mature our technology. We instilled a philosophy of setting and then beating milestones. We attracted strategic government and commercial partners, and we grew our talented team to continue building traction across AI, mobile, defense and aerospace, and other key markets. This laid the groundwork for the high degree of interest in our technology at the recent OFC conference. The industry is hungry for a solution to address near-term demand and supply chain constraints and to enable future generation integrated microsystems such as co-packaged optics or CPO. Encouragingly, the industry is thinking long-term. They are taking measures to address near-term needs while also anticipating massive future growth opportunities. The growing demand for 200G per lane transceivers and the transition to 400G per lane provide opportunities for Aluma's high-speed in-gas photodiodes. By not using indium phosphide substrates, we can overcome supply constraints and win on cost. The so-called slow and wide architectures driven by micro LEDs, micro Vixels, and other technologies require new high-speed photodiode array formats. Illuma has been developing such photodiodes on non-indium phosphide substrates for a defense customer, anticipating the dual-use applicability of the technology for commercial markets. Right now, high-power lasers for transceivers are a bottleneck in commercial applications. Customers want more power and better reliability to withstand the stringent requirements for data centers. Lasers are failing at high power and high temperature. The interest in quantum dot lasers has surged for their potential to improve power handling, increase reliability, and eliminate optical isolators. Illuma is the first company to offer MOCVD quantum dot lasers. Compared to MBE, a technique used by others, MOCVD has much higher throughput and is the industry standard for volume production. For example, MOCVD is used exclusively for large volume Vixel manufacturing for facial recognition in mobile phones. Given all the moving pieces in the supply chain, a common question is, where does Aluma fit in the ecosystem? We sit at the intersection of semiconductor materials, photonic component design, and manufacturing, and this is a rarefied and strategic position. Our proprietary platform combines the performance advantages of compound semiconductors with scalable microelectronics manufacturing. We can produce photonics at large volumes with an outsourced supply chain, or we can partner with customers that have their own manufacturing infrastructure. And for very large markets such as mobile, we may license our intellectual property as a go-to-market strategy. Allow me to go into more detail on the tailwinds driving our target markets, which are illustrated in slide two. AI infrastructure and data centers. AI is driving a major build-out of data centers. As mentioned in our last call, the top four hyperscalers invested more than $300 billion in data center CapEx in 2025. This number will approach $700 billion in 2026 and is expected to surpass $1 trillion in 2029. Optical networking will be approximately 15% of this investment. This is the huge opportunity for photonics, and it's fueling a breadth of activity in this space. While photonic components were developed in the 1990s for telecom networks to connect people, today they are needed for AI to connect machines at scale. This market is propelling Illuma's photonics product roadmap forward. Customers are considering our technology to address current supply gaps and for long-term growth opportunities. This provides us with an ideal combination of near-term revenue paths to drive production ramp and qualification plans and to develop longer-term strategic partnership opportunities. This is an exciting time for the photonics industry because higher performance requirements are accelerating innovation. Existing technologies are being pushed to their limits and new technologies are being evaluated for adoption. Photonic components of all shapes and sizes are needed across the data center for slow and wide and fast and narrow transceiver formats. Many of these traditionally depend on indium phosphide technology, which has become a critical bottleneck. Illumis product offerings manufactured with non-indium phosphide substrates are illustrated in slide three. For slow and wide applications, candidates being considered on the transmit side are micro LEDs, micro Vixels, and silicon micro ring modulators. ALUMA's non-indium-phosphide high-speed in-gas photodiode arrays compare with any of these transmitter technologies. For fast and narrow transmitters, indium-phosphide EMLs are being pushed to 400 G per lane performance, as are thin-film lithium niobate modulators and silicon moxender modulators. Aluma's non-indium phosphide high-speed in-gas photodiodes can also pair with any of these transmitter technologies. For silicon photonic CPO transceivers, indium phosphide lasers are a bottleneck due to supply constraints, performance requirements, and packaging complexity. Alternative gallium arsenide quantum dot lasers are being considered to address these challenges. Illuma's MOCVD quantum dot lasers offer high power handling, scalability, and the potential for better reliability. As customers continue to evaluate our photodiode and laser technologies for AI data centers, and we navigate this highly active market, we have gained increasing confidence in our manufacturing approach and go-to-market strategy. Mobile and consumer electronics. Mobile OEMs are gearing up to adopt shortwave infrared, or SWIR, for image sensors in smartphones. SWIR sensors improve eye safety, achieve high resolution imaging, and can be positioned behind the OLED display, thereby preserving important screen real estate. InGas is the gold standard for SWIR, but it is manufactured on indium phosphide substrates and therefore is expensive and doesn't scale. Alternative SWIR technologies were evaluated but showed subpar performance. Early in Illuma's history, we explained that the winning approach for broad market adoption is to combine the best-in-class SWIR material, ingas, with scalable manufacturing. Our ingas photodiode arrays on non-indium phosphide substrates are optimized for performance and scale and deliver on key technical metrics such as dark current and sensitivity. We have been engaged across the supply chain from the OEMs to the tier one and tier two suppliers. To execute our capital light model, we are partnering with established manufacturers and where appropriate, we can license our technology for this high volume application. While qualification and production will require a multi-year effort, our engagements in this target market are progressing steadily through evaluation and feasibility. At the same time, we continue to mature our technology with foundry partners. The sheer scale of this market is massive, and one that will drive to silicon substrate sizes. This is an exciting growth opportunity for Aluma, and we are carefully positioning our company and technology to capitalize. Defense and aerospace. Aluma's technology is truly dual use. It is high performance technology engineered for the rigors of defense systems, but also applicable to commercial markets. We successfully attracted strategic non-diluted funding from government agencies for development. These programs were leveraged to mature our technology and to gain traction with the government, prime contractors, private defense tech companies, and commercial customers. In several cases, these contracts have progressed to later stage programs focused on technology transition that will benefit both defense and commercial sectors. We recently announced new contracts to advance quantum dot lasers and quantum nonlinear materials, along with partnerships with Tower Semiconductor and Sumitomo Chemical Advanced Technologies. A stated strategic priority for fiscal year 26 was to win three to seven new development contracts for non-diluted funding for R&D and growth of partnership opportunities. We have met this goal, having secured six contracts to date, totaling well over 5 million in value. Supply chain and scaling. On supply chain, we have been working with fabrication foundries, materials companies, integration and packaging partners for several years. A disruptive semiconductor company's supply chain is proprietary information. As an example, in the public domain, earlier this year, quantum company IonQ announced its intention to acquire Skywater, a pure play U.S. semiconductor foundry. IonQ was presumably already working with Skywater as a foundry partner, yet I don't believe this information was disclosed prior to the acquisition announcement. Alluma works with several supply chain partners. These include fabrication foundries, some of which are compound semiconductor fabs and others silicon fabs. Some are capable of 100 millimeter wafer fabrication, some 200 millimeter, and some up to 300 millimeter. For many of our target markets, 150 millimeter wafers are sufficient. Even so, Illuma's use of non-indium phosphide substrates at this size provides a path to scale and meet demand, while overcoming supply chain constraints and winning on cost. Illuma produces starting wafers in-house, but also works with partners such as Sumitomo Chemical Advanced Technologies to enable scaling. For some next generation Datacom microsystems, as well as quantum, integration on silicon is desirable. This is where partnerships with foundries like Tower Semiconductor are key. And lastly, for large volume consumer markets, 200 and even 300 millimeter silicon manufacturing are foreseeable. In summary, we have been working strategically with a variety of supply chain partners to match the technology to market opportunity to manufacturing approach, all the while increasing manufacturing readiness to ensure we are positioned to intersect market adoption timelines. To support our strategic priorities, which include operations and go-to-market execution, our team also continues to expand. In early March, we welcomed Dr. Christiane Poblenz as VP of Materials Operations. Christiane brings 25 years of experience commercializing semiconductor wafers and laser products for consumer markets, including next-generation displays and automotive. She is now leading efforts to scale production of Illuma's large-diameter epitaxial wafers and expand operations. We also recently welcomed Dr. Willie Rachmady as VP of Strategic Partnerships and Ecosystem, Willy was a technical and strategic leader at Intel, driving product roadmaps, intellectual property development, strategic investments, and ecosystem partnerships. At Illuma, Willy will lead foundry and ecosystem partnerships, customer engineering, and technology commercialization strategy. Lastly, on the commercial pipeline and commercial sales. Looking forward, our enthusiasm continues to grow. We described the wealth of activity across AI Datacom, mobile and consumer, and defense and aerospace. There is also a noticeable uptick in engagements from prospective Quantum customers. Overall, the quality and precision of our engagements have increased, and this is driving our product roadmap execution and discussions with strategic partners. We are prioritizing the most impactful and clearly defined opportunities while qualifying products to meet industry standards and customer specifications. It is highly motivating to see Illuma's vision come to life as we move toward broad commercialization. Now I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Chris Stewart, to discuss the financials.

Christopher Stewart | Chief Financial Officer

Thank you Jonathan moving on to our financial results for the fiscal third quarter revenue was $1.2 million compared to 1.3 million in the third quarter of last year and 1.3 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2026. Government R&D contracts were the principal source of revenue for the quarter and continue to provide non dilutive capital to advance our technology and expand our strategic relationships. Gap net loss for the fiscal third quarter was $1.8 million or $0.10 per basic and diluted share compared to net income of $1.5 million or $0.12 per share in the prior year period and a net loss of $1.9 million or $0.11 per share in the prior quarter. Non-gap net loss for the quarter was $701,000 or $0.04 per share compared to break-even in the third quarter last year and a loss of $797,000 also $0.04 per share, last quarter. The year-over-year change in GAAP net income was primarily due to a one-time $2.3 million gain in the fair value of derivative liabilities that we recorded in the third quarter of 2025. Employee-related costs and R&D spending have increased year-over-year as we have added key positions to expand our capabilities and scale our operations. Adjusted EBITDA loss for the third quarter was $911,000 compared to a gain of $109,000 in the same period last year and in line with our prior quarter. We closed the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $37.8 million in cash and cash equivalents and no long-term debt. Cash decreased $792,000 from the close of the December quarter, reflecting increased spending on new hires and investments in R&D. Going forward, we expect to increase spending as we continue to add additional resources and increase our R&D investments to capitalize on the opportunities in our commercial pipeline. In March, we established an ATM facility to provide us with the flexibility to raise capital when market conditions warrant, and when we believe it is in the best interest of the company and our shareholders. In establishing the ATM, we did not register any additional shares. We simply allocated $50 million of our existing shelf capacity to an ATM. To date, we have not sold any shares through this facility. As an early stage growth company, we believe having an ATM in place is a prudent financial measure that positions us for strategic growth and can serve as a way to attract targeted institutional investors through reverse inquiries. We remain committed to operating in a disciplined capital efficient manner, while ensuring that we are sufficiently capitalized for execution on the value creation opportunities for our shareholders. Turning to guidance, we are updating our full-year revenue guidance to $4.2 million to $4.6 million, narrowed from the previous range of $4 to $6 million. The updated range is primarily the result of delays in the execution of several government contracts and the subsequent start of work for these new programs. Government shutdowns and other factors led to these delays. As we have stated, our government contracts are a great source of non-dilutive funding for development, but they do come with a degree of uncertainty in quarter-to-quarter and even year-to-year revenue. These contracts have enabled our technology development and directly led to commercial traction. As shared in previous earnings calls this year, our focus is on commercializing our technology to capitalize on several high-growth market opportunities, including AI Datacom. Therefore, any future government bids will emphasize later stage development and transition opportunities versus fundamental development and feasibility. To echo Jonathan's sentiment, we are very excited about the momentum that is building across our target markets and the progress we are making with customers and supply chain partners. Interest in Illumis technology has never been higher, and our strong value proposition is being amplified by the explosive growth in the data center market, which is putting a spotlight on the shortcomings of traditional indium phosphide-based photonics. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.

Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Chris. To summarize, this quarter further reinforced that Illumis is gaining traction and momentum. We continue to execute our strategic priorities, strengthen our technical foundation, accelerate our go-to-market plan, and expand operations to scale. Building on the momentum from the OFC conference, our customer engagements are strengthening and driving our transition to commercialization. As always, I want to thank our incredible team for their hard work and dedication, and want to thank all of you for your unwavering support and enthusiasm. Operator, you can now open the call to questions.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Richard Shannon with Craig Hollow.

Please go ahead. Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Well, thanks, Jonathan, and Christopher, let me ask you a few questions. Jonathan, your commentary on the AI Data Center is very interesting. Not surprised at all about the interest in your roadmaps in the long term, but filling near-term gaps is really interesting. Would love to understand kind of the dynamics around that, and that statement kind of implies that you're your maturity is getting to the point where you could see a, you know, some sort of contract and a win here in the fairly short term. So I want to get a sense of to what degree that conclusion is fair or correct.

Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the question, Richard. So I think we're very well positioned because of that balance that's coming, especially from that market. And as I mentioned, There are some supply constraints and certain components are just not being provided by incumbent suppliers at scale. As you know, some laser suppliers are sold out for some time. Indium phosphide substrate suppliers are sold out. And so that's an opportunity for Illuma because we can build some of those components that are traditionally supplied on indium phosphide substrates with our non-indium phosphide substrate technology. So we can overcome supply chain constraints. In the near term, we can scale to larger volumes. There is very strong demand in that market. And ultimately, we believe we would win on cost because of the lower substrate technology. So there are opportunities to build components that already exist, in some cases, The industry is asking for even better performance, like more power out of lasers, but many of these components already exist, already deployed in things like pluggable optics packages. They just need more of them and there are supply constraints right now. So that's a good opportunity for us in terms of near term. And then just very briefly, longer term, as you know, New technologies are required. Technologies need to be really pushed to their limits in terms of things like power handling for lasers, in terms of speed for modulator and detector technologies. And in some cases, the end customer would like to package and integrate these technologies in a different way. than how they're traditionally integrated and packaged in pluggable optics modules. And there, because there is a long-term commitment to continue to build out these AI data centers, customers are interested in making investments in technology development. So I think we're positioned to address some near-term needs for components that may go into pluggable optics modules, as well as sort of long-term growth opportunities where things are going to be carried out in a different way than they have been traditionally.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Okay, Jonathan, that's helpful. Thanks for that perspective. My second question is in the mobile space here. So last quarter, you had mentioned that conversations had been shifting from, you know, product-oriented questions more to, pricing and delivery um didn't hear an update on that but love to hear if there's any progress along those lines here and tying that into your comment today um where you're saying the industry is kind of settled on moving to swear i'd love to get a sense of whether you have specific confidence in any particular time frame for those transitions taking place okay yeah thanks for the question um Dr.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

So the mobile opportunity, as we know, this is a very large volume opportunity, and that industry has wanted to adopt SWIR for quite some time. And several technologies have been developed. I mean, in-gas SWIR, traditional SWIR technology has been around for some time, but the industry looked at other technologies that could potentially enable scaling like colloidal quantum dots or germanium detectors. And what we've seen in direct feedback from our customers is that the performance is just not quite there. It doesn't compete with traditional ingas and doesn't compete with our ingas that's manufactured on a different type of substrate. So I can say with some confidence that the industry very much wants to adopt ingest swear. That doesn't mean that more than one technology won't get adopted or deploy in mobile and consumer electronics. But I think the industry believes and understands and accepts that ingest gives you the best performance. So now can it scale? I can't comment on specifics in terms of timeline, but there are activities happening in the market, meaning the end customers are, no pun intended, sort of mobilizing the supply chain to propose the right solution to this technology deploying in mobile and consumer electronics.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Okay, that's all for Jonathan. Thanks for that. My last quick question is just on the announcement last month about partnerships with Tower and Sumitomo on wafer fabrication or wafer production and fabrication. Curious, do we think of those two specific partners in working with you in certain specific markets? And if so, can you kind of elaborate on those?

Thank you. Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, also a great question. Thanks, Richard. So we've disclosed information about those two partners. As I mentioned in the past and on the call today, we've been working with several foundries for several years. And in some cases, we're doing manufacturing on smaller substrates for development and small volume. And that might be 100 or 150 millimeter substrate sizes. For some markets, the 150 millimeter substrate size is sufficient, maybe for defense and aerospace and for AI data comm in some cases. For very large volume markets, switching or shifting to 200 and even 300 millimeter does help quite a bit. At the end of the day, some of the chips that might deploy in these large volume markets, like an image sensor in consumer electronics, it's not a chip. And so the sheer number of wafers that would be required to meet the volumes of that market is large. And you see the economics in moving from, say, 150 millimeter instead to 200 or even 300 millimeter. millimeter. So those specific partners, Sumitomo Chemical Advanced Technologies, primarily for wafer production. As you know, we produce epi wafers in-house. We have taken some steps to increase capacity internally, but we've always said that eventually we might be fabless or very fab-lite that if an opportunity comes that requires multiple of the MOCBD tools that we have, we're probably not going to make that capex investment ourselves. We're not going to install, you know, a few or five or 10 MOCBD systems in our headquarters in Santa Barbara, California. We would do that with partners whereby We might transfer technology. We might leverage the tools at a partner site. And Sumitomo Chemical Advanced Technology is an example there to scale wafer production capacity. Tower Semiconductor, as you know, is a pure clay fab. And they have several fabs around the world. They have 200 millimeter fab in California. And that Foundry partnership actually enables manufacturing for us for more than one market, AI Datacom, potentially mobile and consumer electronics, and also quantum and defense.

Operator | Conference Operator

The next question comes from Daniel Germacamp with Freedom Broker.

Please go ahead. Daniel Germacamp | Analyst, Freedom Broker

hey guys thanks for the presentation my first question is about the fiscal 2026 guidance that was narrowed down so basically how much of it of that cut is just timing pushing into the next year and how much is permanent and out of six new contracts you signed this year how much of them going to contribute in the q4 or is that all in next year Christopher Stewart | Chief Financial Officer: Yeah, I'd say the vast majority, if not all of it, is timing related. And it has to do with a number of contracts that we have been working on with the government for quite a while. Really just getting through the contracting process and getting these programs kicked off, which allows us to kind of start the work and obviously start the invoicing and revenue just got delayed over the course of this year. Of course, that means that those programs are going to continue longer and we'll see that revenue come through next year. so so really um you know i'd say none of it is permanent loss and it's all just a result of delays in um in getting these things across the line and i think your other question daniel was on uh how much of the new contracts might impact uh the q4 revenue um Dr.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

probably not all that much if you look at revenue to date and the range that we narrowed to. We're a month and a half away from the end of our fiscal year. So as Chris mentioned, several of these contracts started work a bit late, in some cases very recently, in some cases haven't even started yet. So some of that revenue is just going to get pushed into fiscal 27.

Daniel Germacamp | Analyst, Freedom Broker

Yeah, I think that makes sense a lot. The second question that you mentioned over 20 active engagements last quarter, and could you just provide more color? How many of them have moved into qualification and how does the new appointments help to that? And is there any production decision that could be made over the next 12 months?

Thank you. Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Yeah, a few good questions in there. In terms of engagement, maybe I'll just make one comment. The number of engagements continues to grow. We've mentioned 20 customer engagements. That number in our pipeline is probably upwards of 30 engagements now. But that doesn't necessarily mean 20 that we spoke of before and say 10 new. There's probably more than 15 new engagements. which means some of the earlier engagements may have been deprioritized in favor of others that we see as just being very promising, high quality, and have very clear outlooks and timelines. And some of these newer engagements, many of them do stem from AI Datacom. You would ask something about uh, qualification, what I would say is that, um, there's two aspects of qualification. There's, uh, qualifying to, uh, industry standards and then qualifying to customer specific, um, specifications. Um, we've done some of our own internal work to qualify toward industry standards. And, um, but for, you know, in terms of customer specific customer qualifications, uh, we have not been qualified by a customer. Customers are mostly evaluating performance metrics at this stage and providing what the requirements would be should we move into qualification with them. But that said, as I mentioned in the discussion with Richard a moment ago, some of what we're developing addresses near-term needs. And in some cases, we're building components that exist in nature that other suppliers already build. They just can't keep up with demand. And so we took it upon ourselves to start qualification work for products that we expect to be somewhat standard products on the shelf. And that takes a little bit of time, but the initial results look very promising. And then in terms of customer qualification, customers might have different requirements that may or may not be synergistic with industry standards, but we are not fully qualified by a specific customer at this time.

Daniel Germacamp | Analyst, Freedom Broker

Yeah, thanks. Thanks a lot. I think that's it for my side.

Christopher Stewart | Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Daniel. Great to have you. Thank you.

Great to have you on. Operator | Conference Operator

Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1. The next question comes from Tim Savijo with Northland Capital Markets.

Please go ahead. Tim Savijo | Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Hey, good afternoon. Sounds like there's been a lot going on since LFC. It appears you've talked about it a couple times. You know, lasers are the big pain point. I think maybe historically you've described that opportunity, at least for QD lasers, as maybe a little farther out. And so my question is sort of twofold. You know, since OOC or recently, is it safe to say maybe that opportunity has pulled in? And it sounds like, based on your answer to the last question, you may be thinking about making other types of lasers that are currently in short supply. Would that be fair to say as well?

Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Good questions. Thanks, Tim. So I would say that QD Laser has probably been pulled in a bit just because leading up to the OFC conference and since the customer interest has really grown quite a bit and that is for a number of reasons that I think you sort of pointed out. Very large demand for lasers, stringent requirements for lasers in terms of output power, power handling, high temperature operation. And it goes across the chain. Like if there's anything you can do to simplify integration and packaging, you know, it's not just a laser chip itself that that matters. It's getting the light off the chip and ensuring the performance. So quantum dots show potential for isolator-free packaging. And so what I would say has happened over the last few months is that the industry has started to seriously evaluate quantum dot laser technology. And now I don't think that they will rush in adopting any technology. I mean, we're hearing a lot about thin-film lithium niobate on the modulator side and other technologies. But it's clear to us that the AI data market intends to adopt more than one technology and intends to have, in some cases, more than one supplier for each of those technologies. So right now, we're seeing very strong interest in the quantum dot technology. We've been sharing more and more data with customers. Customers really want to evaluate. the quantum dot laser technology. It might take a little bit of time, but because of the strong interest, we at least internally have made efforts to sort of ramp up our maturation of our quantum dot lasers, maybe a little bit earlier than we initially intended. The other components where we are working to address more near-term needs is probably primarily around photodiodes, high-speed photodiodes, and even photodiode arrays, which requires some customization for those slow and wide applications. I can't say that we are going to start manufacturing traditional lasers. We see more of an opportunity to intersect the market with some newer technology or newer ways of manufacturing technology like the quantum dot lasers.

Tim Savijo | Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Got it. And whether it's on the detector side or on the laser side, I mean, at this point, I guess, how quickly do you feel like, you know, you could scale if, you know, customer decides to go forward? You know, you've got the tower relationship. I guess you've been working that for a while. I would suggest not too far off, but, you know, if customer makes a qualification decision, you know, today, How long would it take you to get to scale to volume production?

Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

So I would say that really depends on the qualification requirements of the customer and how quickly we move. Also depends a little bit on the customer profile, because in some cases, our engagements are such that customers just want us to build, you know, scale and supply. In some cases, they want to partner with us, like they might want to leverage the supply chain that we've established, but they have some of their own supply chain partners or some of their own internal manufacturing capacity. So I would say it really depends on the customer profile, but in many cases, we do expect that the partnership with the customers is gonna help accelerate things. Okay, thanks. Thanks, Tim.

Operator | Conference Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dr. Jonathan Clampkin for closing remarks.

Dr. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you all for joining our call today. We look forward to connecting in the future and hope you have a great day.

Operator | Conference Operator

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Research summary and source transcript

readyOct 9, 2026

ALMU's FY2026 Q2 call is best read as a thesis-quality check, not a transcript recap. The upside case is that AI and compute-heavy infrastructure demand are becoming real drivers of customer activity. The key investor question is whether that activity converts into durable revenue, royalties, margins, and cash flow rather than remaining a strong-sounding demand story.

Framework #1 asks what management may know now that the market may not fully recognize for 6-24 months. For ALMU, the possible information gradient is whether current demand, backlog, customer activity, or AI/data-center engagement is an early signal of durable conversion rather than a one-quarter narrative. The transcript still needs follow-through in future quarters before that can be treated as proven.

The business engine appears to be license/design-win activity that later converts into royalties, with valuation quality depending on renewal rates, backlog conversion, and margin durability.

  • Management centered the story on AI, compute, or data-center demand, which is the key thesis variable to verify in future quarters.
  • Backlog and demand visibility were important to the quarter's credibility.
  • Margin quality remains a follow-up topic because the transcript does not resolve it.
  • Customer renewal and new-logo activity are the clearest checks on whether demand is broadening.
  • Management's strongest emphasis appears to be around demand momentum and AI/compute-related opportunity; the useful investor question is whether that enthusiasm is backed by conversion and customer economics.

The tone reads constructive but still needs investor skepticism. Management appears to have enough operating evidence to discuss momentum, but the call only becomes high-quality if the numbers support conversion, margins, cash flow, and customer breadth. Local fallback reason: model analysis failed during on-demand transcript rendering: Earnings call analyzer failed with status 403..

  • There may be at least one Q&A answer that needs manual review for a possible dodge or lack of numerical follow-through.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

Competitive position looks potentially improving, but not proven. Customer activity and AI/compute exposure suggest the company may be in the right demand pools; the missing proof is market-share data, pricing power, win/loss detail, and retention economics.

  • Key figure to verify: An executive from Celestial AI, the photonics company recently acquired by Marvell, stated that the top four hyperscalers invested more than $300 billion in data center CapEx in 2025.
  • Key figure to verify: And this number is expected to surpass $1 trillion in 2029.
  • Key figure to verify: Moving on to our fiscal second quarter 2026 financial results, revenue was $1.3 million compared to $1.6 million in the second quarter of last year, fiscal 2025, and $1.4 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026.
  • Key figure to verify: That net loss for the quarter was $1.9 million, or $0.11 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $2.9 million, or $0.24 per share in the prior year period, and a net loss of $1.5 million, or $0.09 per share in the sequential prior quarter.
  • Key figure to verify: The lower year-over-year net loss was primarily due to a non-recurring $3 million charge for a change in the fair value of derivative liabilities that we recorded in the quarter ended December 31, 2024.
  • The quarter appears to be moving from story to evidence: operating momentum is showing up in revenue, royalties, or backlog rather than only in management narrative.
  • Customer activity looks healthier than a one-quarter spike because the transcript points to both retention/renewal work and new-account activity.
  • AI and data-center exposure look strategically relevant rather than cosmetic, because management ties demand to compute-heavy end markets instead of treating it as a generic buzzword.
  • The transcript gives limited margin evidence, so the quality of revenue still needs corroboration from gross margin, operating leverage, and cash conversion.
  • The main open question is conversion: AI or data-center engagement has to turn into recurring royalties, cash flow, and repeatable design wins before it deserves full credit in valuation.
  • Backlog lowers some demand uncertainty, but investors still need timing, cancellation risk, concentration, and conversion economics before treating it as de-risked revenue.
  • Margin durability remains under-evidenced, which matters because revenue growth without operating leverage can be a weak small-cap signal.
  • There is enough downside language in the transcript to require follow-up on execution, timing, or disclosure quality rather than reading the quarter as fully clean.

The data-center angle appears investable but still needs sizing. The call connects the company to AI or compute-heavy infrastructure demand, which is directionally positive, but the thesis should depend on how much of that activity becomes durable revenue, royalties, and cash conversion rather than on thematic exposure alone.

  • How much of the AI or data-center engagement converts into recurring royalties or repeat revenue within the next four quarters?
  • What portion of backlog is cancellable, delayed, concentrated, or dependent on a small number of customers?
  • Can current margin levels persist as mix, headcount, and product investment change?
  • Did management quantify cash conversion and operating leverage, or only highlight revenue and demand?
  • Are customer wins broad enough to imply share gain rather than a few isolated projects?

FY2026 Q2 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:ALMU Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 10/9/2026 Operator | Conference Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aluma's Q2 fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Alex Vialta, Investor Relations for Aluma.

Please go ahead. Alex Vialta | Investor Relations, Illuma

Good afternoon, and welcome to Illuma's second quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. I'm here today with founder and CEO Jonathan Clampkin and CFO Christopher Stewart. Today's discussions and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the earnings press release issued today along with the reports filed with the US SEC. These reports, along with today's earnings release, can be found under the investor section of our website. Illuma assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Throughout the discussion, the company will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings press release and SEC filings. Now, I'll turn the call over to Illuma's CEO, Jonathan Clampkin.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you, Alex, and thank you all for joining today's call. To begin, I would like to share some enlightening numbers I heard recently at the PIC Summit in Sunnyvale, an event aligned with the SPIE Photonics West Cons that Illuma participated in. An executive from Celestial AI, the photonics company recently acquired by Marvell, stated that the top four hyperscalers invested more than $300 billion in data center CapEx in 2025. And this number is expected to surpass $1 trillion in 2029. This is a significant market opportunity now and for the next several years. It is also an opportunity for new technology and product introduction. Higher performance is needed, higher volumes are needed, and cost is critical. The Aluma platform wins on all of these metrics. And while data centers represent a very important market for Aluma, this is only one of three primary near-term target markets that also include mobile and defense. and activities for us are busier than ever across each of these markets. We are witnessing our vision come to life as mobile and consumer electronics OEMs position their supply chains to adopt shortwave infrared, or SWIR, sensors. SWIR sensors have been around for many years, primarily in the defense, aerospace, and industrial markets for applications such as imaging and machine vision. Indium gallium arsenide, or ingas, one of Illuma's primary semiconductor materials, has been the benchmark for SWIR because of its best-in-class performance. But incumbent ingas technology is expensive and doesn't scale. If only ingas could be lower cost. I've heard this for decades. If only, then ingas sensors would be in every mobile phone, tablet, PC, and other consumer product. The mobile market is getting ready to adopt SWIR, and as we know, Illuma's manufacturing platform enables the scale required for mass markets. In the second quarter, we continued to execute our commitments and remained sharply focused on our transition to commercialization. Conversations with key customers have shifted from interest and evaluation to pricing and planning. At this pivotal time, I am delighted to welcome Bush Nesser as Aluma's new Senior Vice President of Business Development and Product. Bush held key roles at JDSU, now Lumentum, overseeing sales, product marketing, and management for high-speed receiver product lines. What a great match for Aluma and our scalable detector technology. Busch's three decades of experience with semiconductor photonics span optical networking in data centers, sensing, and quantum. In addition to JDSU Lumentum, Busch held leadership roles at SCD USA, one of the largest suppliers of infrared sensors, and Princeton LightWave, where he launched commercial laser, and biomedical detector products. Bush is the perfect fit for Illuma at this stage when we are seeing increasing requests for quotation and have begun taking sales orders. While initial orders are relatively small in value, this marks an important milestone toward broader market adoption. Bush has a track record of taking technology to product, driving market adoption, and growing revenue. He will accelerate our go-to-market strategy, building on the significant customer traction achieved today. In addition to Bush's appointment, we added experienced leadership and technical talent across supply chain and engineering. These other key appointments have strengthened our manufacturing partner relationships as we increase operations with foundries. Ships are yielding and performing as we qualify our processes for target markets. We will continue to expand the team and also evaluate strategic opportunities to accelerate our growth. Earlier, we announced the win with NASA to invest further in our platform for quantum photonics. We also received additional contract funding to integrate quantum dot lasers directly into the AIM Photonics 300 millimeter silicon photonics platform. This technology could be a game changer for the photonics industry across AI, data centers, sensing, and quantum. Additionally, we received several award notices recently for later stage R&D efforts and transition opportunities, reinforcing confidence in Illumis technology and expectations for additional contracts this year. In January, our team was very active at the SPIE Photonics West Technical Conference and Exhibition. a presentation was delivered that showcased our scalable semiconductor platform for quantum. To provide color, Aluma is a technology company and not a system integrator. However, we believe our platform has more potential than those developed by major quantum system companies. Compared to alternatives such as lithium niobate or barium titanate, Illuma's heterogeneous integration on silicon may provide the path forward to scalable quantum photonic systems. Our booth at the exhibition was also busy. We held important meetings with existing customers and partners and also discussed Illuma's technology with many new leads across key markets. Important people came to see Illuma. The word is out and the buzz continues to grow. We were visited by individuals from the mobile market, the data center market, the defense market, and the quantum market, among others. We also took another step to deepen our presence in defense and commercial markets with admission to the Midwest Microelectronics Consortium, or MMEC, in November. This is a key hub within the Department of War's Microelectronics Commons, which is focused on transitioning critical technologies from the lab into domestic manufacturing. Hub themes directly align with the Loomis technology, which addresses AI hardware, electronic warfare, quantum, and infrared sensing. Simply put, the MMEC expands our reach while reaffirming our role in future-proofing America's leadership in semiconductors. External recognition continued, with Aluma being named a 2025 LEAP Award winner for Advanced Materials Innovation. This award recognized our wafer-scale SWIR photo detector platform and highlights the competitive advantage of combining best-in-class materials with scalable manufacturing. Importantly, this independent validation enhances our credibility and relevance across multiple high-growth markets. At the same time, we continue to strengthen the foundation of our business, We expanded our patent portfolio to 35 issued and pending patents. Our mindset is to leave no stone unturned when it comes to establishing a footprint in our target markets. Taken together, these achievements underscore clear themes. Momentum is building, visibility is rising, engagement is translating into opportunity. The time is now to capitalize on our progress and the growing market horizon and to pursue strategic opportunities to accelerate our path to commercialization. As we move through fiscal 2026, we remain intensely focused on commercialization and on delivering long-term value. Now, I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Chris Stewart, to discuss the financials.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Thanks, Jonathan. Moving on to our fiscal second quarter 2026 financial results, revenue was $1.3 million compared to $1.6 million in the second quarter of last year, fiscal 2025, and $1.4 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Our government R&D contracts were the principal source of revenue for the quarter, and as we have discussed previously, quarter-to-quarter revenue can vary based on the timing of meeting program milestones. It's important to highlight the strategic nature of these programs. Government development contracts provide non-diluted funding for our R&D investments and serve as ongoing technical validation of our platform by prospective government customers. Going forward, we will continue to pursue strategic government programs that can meaningfully accelerate commercialization opportunities. That net loss for the quarter was $1.9 million, or $0.11 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $2.9 million, or $0.24 per share in the prior year period, and a net loss of $1.5 million, or $0.09 per share in the sequential prior quarter. The lower year-over-year net loss was primarily due to a non-recurring $3 million charge for a change in the fair value of derivative liabilities that we recorded in the quarter ended December 31, 2024. This was partially offset by higher salaries, stock-based compensation, and employee-related costs associated with increasing our headcount to strategically expand our business and scale our operations. The sequential increase in net loss was driven by higher R&D related expense partially offset by lower SG&A expense. Adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $917,000 compared to a gain of 647,000 in the same period last year and a loss of 450,000 in the first quarter of this year. We closed the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $38.6 million in cash and cash equivalents, an increase of $425,000 from the close of the September quarter, primarily due to the receipt of $690,000 from the exercise warrants that were issued as part of our March 2025 NASDAQ uplisting and financing. Related to the warrant exercise, we issued 124,415 shares of common stock. Currently, we have no long-term debt, and we intend to continue to operate in a disciplined, capital-efficient manner while ensuring that Aluma is appropriately positioned to execute on our strategic plans and capitalize on the opportunities to create value for our shareholders. Last week, we took a proactive step in filing a post-effective amendment with the SEC to consolidate several existing S-1 registration statements that we're currently on file. No new chairs were registered in connection with this filing. This consolidation just streamlines our reporting requirements and reduces administrative costs going forward. Turning to guidance for the full fiscal year of 2026, we continue to expect revenue in the range of 4 to 6 million. Our execution is progressing according to the plans discussed on our last two quarterly calls. We have strengthened our organization with key additions across our go-to-market and operations teams. We are ramping fab runs and continuing to increase our manufacturing readiness. As Jonathan mentioned, we're receiving an increasing number of requests for price quotations and have begun taking initial sales orders for product shipments. While near-term revenue from these orders is expected to be modest, we do believe it's an important milestone and provides another indication of market interest in our technology. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you, Chris. To summarize, this quarter reinforced that Aluma is gaining traction and momentum. We continue to execute our strategic priorities, strengthen our technical foundation, accelerate our go-to-market plan, and expand operations to scale. As we move through the year, we remain laser focused on converting this momentum into customer programs and transitioning to commercialization. I want to thank our incredible team for their hard work and dedication, And I want to thank all of you for your unwavering support and enthusiasm. Operator, you can now open the call for questions.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. The first question will come from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallam.

Please go ahead. Tyler | Analyst, Craig Hallum

Hi, this is Tyler on for Richard Shannon. I was wondering what are the end marks and markets that you're getting sales orders for?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thanks, Tyler, for the question. As it relates to sales or engagements, we're not sharing specific customer or product information at this time. The small flurry of pricing inquiries and initial sales orders is an important milestone, but the sales orders are relatively small in value, certainly a step forward toward broad market adoption. But we do believe that our plan to initially focus on mobile, AI, and defense has provided us sort of the right balance of early adopters, small volume early adopters, and disruptive large volume opportunities. And, you know, a good way to to get to large orders is to first win some small sales orders. And that's exactly what's happening for us right now.

Tyler | Analyst, Craig Hallum

Awesome, that's that's great to hear. And then you mentioned quantum photonics. I was just wondering, is this for receiving or operations or routing or or sending of quantum photons?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

In the near term, the work that we're doing is primarily for generating photons. There's significant interest in working with Illuma to build out an entire platform that could do everything from generate photons, route photons, process and detect photons. with our single photon detector technology. But in the near term, we've been doing sort of foundational work to develop a platform to integrate these highly nonlinear materials on large diameter substrates. So we've done that on small substrates. We've done that on 200 millimeter substrates. And we're working with some partners now to scale that to 300 millimeter substrates.

Tyler | Analyst, Craig Hallum

And then just one last one to expand on that. Pairs or single photons?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Primarily pairs.

Tyler | Analyst, Craig Hallum

Got it.

Thank you. Appreciate it. Operator | Conference Operator

The next question will come from David Williams with Benchmark.

Please go ahead. David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Hey, Jonathan. Chris, thank you, gentlemen, for taking the question. Certainly appreciate it. And congrats on the continued progress here. And maybe first, just kind of following on Tyler's first question about the sales orders, and I know you're not commenting maybe on the end markets, but... Is there a way to kind of think about maybe the number that you're seeing there in terms of the magnitude of how many customers are actively engaging on that side? And then maybe what are those orders for? You talk about them being small, so I'm assuming they're samples. But are these programs that you think can move into volume scale over time? Or maybe just any more color around those sales would be helpful.

Thank you. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

So, price increase coming from a multitude of markets. We sort of mentioned our key markets, so it's coming from more than one of mobile AI data centers, defense, and quantum. What I can say is that there's multiple price quotations out there, multiple sales orders coming in, relatively small in size. So we're not increasing our revenue guidance for this year at the time. But we see these as a very important milestone because as more and more requests come in, Others follow. So outside of sort of the business to business marketing that we do, people are finding out about our technology and what we're building and sending us requests. So we do expect this to grow over time and we'll likely report on it in future quarterly calls. But at this time, what I could say is that our strategy to focus on defense, mobile, AI data centers and longer-term opportunities in quantum seems to be coming to fruition now.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Yeah, I certainly appreciate the color there. And then maybe secondly, just stepping back, and you talked about SWIR and mobile and the supply chains kind of ramping to adopt that. Can you talk about maybe where you intercept that generation in terms of builds and And is this something we could see this year or maybe have some indication of a pathway to that adoption for next year in terms of that SWIR on the mobile side?

Thank you. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thanks, David. I can't comment on timeline at this moment. But SWIR, as I said in my remarks, has been around for decades in applications like, you know, defense, night vision, industrial applications, machine vision. And it is the in-gas technology that Illuma developed is the best swear technology because of its performance. It just doesn't scale when it's made the sort of conventional way. Otherwise, it would make its way into consumer electronics. There's a lot of benefits for consumer applications. Shortwave infrared offers low solar interference, improved eye safety. And what I can say is that the mobile industry is positioning to adopt SWIR for future generation products. And so what we see happening is what went from interest in our technology, the industry is gearing up the supply chain for that market. Other than that, I can't comment on timeline at this moment.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

No, that's certainly encouraging. It sounds like if they're gearing up the supply chain, it sounds like there's something maybe more solid that's coming down the pipeline that you might be able to announce in the future. Is that kind of fair to think that that is the case?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Yeah, we feel like the plan to adopt SWIR for consumer markets is solidifying. It's not just an interest at this stage.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Okay, fantastic. That's really nice to hear. And then maybe just lastly here, if I can, you talked about pursuing some strategic opportunities really as you move to commercialization. And in the past, you've talked about potentially licensing deals on the mobile side. So I guess maybe can you speak a little bit about those strategic opportunities that you mentioned in the script? And then also on the manufacturing side, do you feel like you have – the sufficient volume to meet what you see coming down the pipe over the next, say, 12 to 24 months?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thanks, David. That's a great question. On supply chain, as you know, and we've discussed this on prior calls, we have a number of supply chain partners, fab partners, materials partners, packaging, integration, and other supply chain partners. And for every partner or area, there's multiple providers and paths. And some paths are better suited for very large volume markets. Some paths are better suited for the smaller volume of markets such as defense. We haven't shared details of the supply chain at this time, but we hope to in the future. And in terms of strategic opportunities, yes, for any one of the market opportunities that we speak of, whether it's mobile, AI data centers, or defense, we're always looking at more than one way to get our technology to market, to enable market adoption, whether that be us or leading the manufacturing supply with our supply chain partners or transferring process to mature manufacturers and licensing. Nothing specific to say at this time, but we look at all opportunities possible to get our technology into market. And how our technology makes its way into these different markets might look different for mobile versus defense and so on.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Great. Well, congratulations again. It's certainly great to hear the progress and looking forward to seeing your success.

Thank you. Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you, David. The next question will come from Tim Savageau with Northland Capital Markets.

Please go ahead. Tim Savageau | Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Hey, good afternoon. The question more focused on the AI infrastructure side. I think last quarter you mentioned the you know, indications of demand accelerating kind of across the ecosystem and that driving some acceleration in activities on your part. And I think if anything, you know, over the last week or two, we've seen in reports from some of the larger players in the space, maybe indications of increased acceleration across the device and optical module side. You know, I wonder if that in turn has led to some further degree of acceleration in what you're seeing in terms of AI infrastructure opportunities. It seems like your management addition might speak to that, but if you had any more color on that front, kind of at a higher level, that would be great.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Yes, and I think you were alluding, Tim, to some supply chain issues, whether it be sort of turning on capacity for components that are in high demand or substrate supply that's required to produce the epiwafers. There are a multitude of interesting opportunities for us, and the number of inquiries coming in from that space really grows by the day, in part because of supply chain issues, because of demand and supply not being there or not being turned on at the moment. We've talked about quantum dot lasers and integrated with silicon. That's a little bit more long-term for us. What is very near-term is helping meet the demand of other components like high-speed detectors that are applicable across a variety of use cases. So, as you know, the industry refers to slow and wide for scale out, narrow and fast for scale up. A multitude of cases, whether it be EMLs or silicon photonics transceivers or Vixels, and whether it's pluggables or a transition to NPO and eventually co-packaged optics, the system integrators and hyperscalers need high-performance components, higher speed, lower power consumption, and the cost requirement needs to be met. And what's very interesting is that we've been developing this high-speed detector technology for some defense customers, and now people are asking us specifically for some of these slow and wide detectors and detector arrays or very high-speed in-gas detectors to enable certain wavelengths and to enable EML or silicon photonics transceivers. So there appears to be a bottleneck in the industry for some of these high-performance components. We hear all the time from the system integrators that they're looking at high-speed modulator technology, thin-film lithium niobate. I think the laser bottleneck is not something we're going to pursue in the near term because there are many component providers that can build the lasers that are needed. Meeting the price requirement is going to be a challenge, but high-speed modulators and high-speed detectors, there's an opportunity there, and our focus is on high-speed detectors. for a few different formats and data centers.

Tim Savageau | Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Great. And just to follow up on that, I mean, a lot of, at least to the indication of demand strength, separate from what's happening supply-wise, is coming at kind of higher speed, you know, rates for, mostly for modules, but maybe some co-packaged stuff as well at 1.6 terabit. I mean, how is the company positioned to address those type of opportunities.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Very well. And that's one of our top priorities for the data center markets. We've been developing high-speed detectors It's a fairly similar platform to the detector platform that we've developed for image sensors. Similar materials, slightly different epistacks, slightly different fab flows to enable the high speed. And we've got some of the world's leading experts in high speed detectors, 50, 100 gigahertz bandwidth and beyond. And that's exactly what we're doing right now. We're taking our platform that we developed for a government customer for the 10 and 25 gig data rates and now expanding it to even higher speeds for some of those applications, whether it be 200G Vixels or EML links at 200G.

Great. Tim Savageau | Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Thanks very much.

Operator | Conference Operator

Thank you.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Thanks, Tim.

Thanks for joining the call. Operator | Conference Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jonathan Clampkin for any closing remarks.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you for joining our call today. We look forward to connecting in the future.

Wish you a great day. Operator | Conference Operator

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Research summary and source transcript

readyJun 10, 2026

Aeluma is transitioning from pure R&D revenue to initial commercial product readiness, leveraging a scalable semiconductor manufacturing platform to address growing demand in AI infrastructure, defense/aerospace, and optical interconnects. The company has strengthened its balance sheet with $38.1 million in cash and no long-term debt following a $23.4 million follow-on offering, enabling increased wafer fabrication and hiring. While R&D contracts continue to provide non-dilutive funding, commercialization remains the strategic priority for FY2026, with management targeting initial commercial product revenue within the fiscal year, though no specific volume, pricing, or revenue guidance was provided for this transition.

Management knows today that they have secured a NASA contract for quantum applications, increased wafer fabrication levels nearly five-fold at foundry partners, acquired wafer-scale test equipment at deeply discounted terms, and filled key leadership roles in supply chain and technology enablement—all of which de-risk near-term manufacturing readiness and position the company to support initial commercial product revenue in FY2026. The market is unlikely to fully appreciate the significance of the NASA contract as a dual-use validation of their scalable platform, the strategic value of acquiring capital equipment at 'nearly one cent on the dollar' for test capabilities, or the operational impact of five-fold increased wafer runs in reducing time-to-volume for defense/aerospace and optical interconnect customers until tangible design wins or sample-to-order conversions emerge in the next 6-24 months.

Revenue from R&D contracts (government and commercial), manufacturing readiness via foundry partnerships and wafer-scale testing, and customer engagement progression in AI infrastructure, defense/aerospace, and optical interconnects.

  • Transition to commercial product revenue in FY2026
  • Increased manufacturing readiness via five-fold wafer fabrication growth
  • Expansion of customer engagements in AI infrastructure and defense/aerospace
  • Use of R&D contracts for non-dilutive funding and dual-use technology validation
  • Strengthened balance sheet and cash position following follow-on offering
  • Focus on high-performance semiconductor components for optical interconnects
  • Jonathan Clampkin expressed strong enthusiasm about the AI infrastructure market, citing 'unprecedented demand' and 'booming' activity for high-speed transceiver components.
  • He highlighted excitement about quantum dot lasers and their potential in co-packaged optics, calling them a 'good fit' for future adoption.
  • He noted being 'thrilled at the caliber of applicants' for key hires in supply chain, technology enablement, and business development.
  • He described the NASA contract as enabling 'low-size weight and power quantum systems' for space-based platforms, emphasizing its strategic value.
  • He reiterated confidence in the company's ability to 'scale, deliver performance, and bring costs down' in high-end chip markets.

Management displayed a confident and forward-looking tone, emphasizing progress in manufacturing readiness, customer engagement, and financial strength without overstating near-term commercial revenue. Jonathan Clampkin used enthusiastic but measured language when discussing market opportunities, avoiding specific numerical forecasts while expressing conviction in the company's differentiated approach. CFO Christopher Stewart was direct and cautious in financial commentary, clearly distinguishing between R&D revenue and future commercial expectations, and acknowledging dependencies on market conditions and investment needs. There was no evidence of defensiveness or evasiveness in tone; instead, the team appeared transparent about milestones achieved and uncertainties remaining.

  • There may be at least one Q&A answer that needs manual review for a possible dodge or lack of numerical follow-through.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

The company appears to be positioning itself competitively in niche semiconductor photonics markets by leveraging a scalable, lower-cost manufacturing platform to address unmet demand for high-performance optical components. While no direct market share or customer wins were disclosed, management's emphasis on differentiating from expensive indium phosphide-based solutions, increasing wafer volumes, and targeting high-growth verticals suggests a strategy of cost and scale advantage. However, without evidence of design wins, pricing power, or customer traction, the competitive position remains unproven and dependent on execution of the commercialization transition.

  • Q1 FY2026 revenue: $1.4 million (up from $481,000 YoY and $1.3 million in prior quarter)
  • GAAP net loss: $1.5 million ($0.09 per share) in Q1 FY2026
  • Non-GAAP net loss: $437,000 ($0.03 per share) in Q1 FY2026
  • Adjusted EBITDA: loss of $450,000 in Q1 FY2026
  • Cash and cash equivalents: $38.1 million at end of Q1 FY2026
  • Follow-on offering: 1.955 million shares sold for net proceeds of $23.4 million
  • Wafer fabrication levels increased nearly five-fold at foundry partners
  • NASA contract signed for scalable semiconductor platform in quantum applications
  • Initial commercial product revenue expected during FY2026
  • Potential design wins or NRE commitments from AI infrastructure and defense/aerospace customers
  • Successful qualification of manufacturing processes at scale via increased wafer runs
  • Conversion of sample deliveries to volume orders in optical interconnects or imaging sensors
  • Additional government or commercial R&D contracts toward the three-to-seven annual target
  • Announcement of formalized foundry or supply chain partnerships as volume ramps
  • Revenue remains heavily dependent on milestone-based R&D contracts with uncertain timing of customer sign-off
  • No commercial product revenue has been realized yet; transition to commercialization is unproven at scale
  • Increased operating expenses from payroll and stock-based compensation drove higher GAAP net loss YoY
  • Dependence on external foundry partners creates supply chain and capacity execution risk
  • Market adoption of optical interconnects and co-packaged optics may be slower than anticipated
  • Government funding slowdown due to shutdowns or budget cuts could impact non-dilutive R&D contract pipeline

Aeluma's technology has direct applicability to data center markets through high-speed transceiver components and quantum dot lasers for optical interconnects, with management noting strong interest from customers evaluating their technology for AI infrastructure and rack-to-rack optics. The company sees near-term demand in short- and mid-reach transceiver applications (a few meters to a few kilometers) and long-term potential in co-packaged optics, where their quantum dot laser technology could be a differentiator. While they are not currently engaging directly with hyperscalers like NVIDIA, they are engaging across the value chain, including module and OEM levels, and believe their scalable manufacturing platform can deliver high-performance chips at lower cost than incumbent suppliers. However, no current revenue, design wins, or customer commitments from data center-specific customers were disclosed in the transcript.

  • What specific milestones must be achieved to recognize initial commercial product revenue in FY2026?
  • Which customer segments (e.g., defense, AI infrastructure, optical OEMs) are most likely to yield the first design wins or volume orders?
  • What is the expected timeline for converting sample deliveries or NRE work into recurring revenue?
  • How will the five-fold increase in wafer fabrication translate into measurable capacity for commercial production?
  • What are the gross margin expectations for initial commercial products versus current R&D contract revenue?
  • How sensitive is the cash runway to the timing of commercial revenue versus continued R&D funding?
  • What criteria define a 'formalized' foundry partnership, and when might such agreements be disclosed?
  • How does the NASA quantum contract de-risk or validate the scalability of the platform for commercial markets?

FY2026 Q1 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:ALMU Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 6/8/2026 Gary | Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Illuma's Q1 fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Tony Rossi, investor relations for Illuma.

Please go ahead. Tony Rossi | Investor Relations

Thanks, Gary. Good afternoon and welcome to Aluma's first quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. I'm here today with founder and CEO Jonathan Clampkin and CFO Christopher Stewart. Today's discussions and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the earnings press release issued today along with the reports filed with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. These reports, along with today's earnings release, can be found under the Investors section of our website. Illuma assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Throughout the discussion, the company will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in our earnings press release and SEC filings. Now I'll turn the call over to Illuma's CEO, Jonathan Clampkin.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Thank you, Tony. And thank you all for joining. Let's begin with the growing spotlight on AI adoption. It's rapid acceleration is driving unprecedented demand for optical component technologies for AI infrastructure. In response, Illuma has fast tracked the transition to commercial scale production of our high performance semiconductors. Illuma builds critical semiconductor photonics, including high-speed transceiver components and high-power quantum dot lasers for optical interconnects. We've invested in a breakthrough manufacturing platform with the potential to meet the performance, scale, and cost requirements for AI and other large volume markets. The way cloud computing became the new standard for deploying and managing digital services, we believe Illuma's approach will become the way of the future for semiconductor manufacturing. That is the definition of a disruptive technology. Think of the impact in the context of what is happening on a global scale. Demand for semiconductors in U.S. markets is at an all-time high, yet many fabs are overseas, and supply chain issues are impeding the usual way of doing things. Turn to Illuma. We do not rely on expensive indium phosphide substrates that now have historically long lead times and historically high prices. We currently work with multiple US-based fabs, including one well-known large volume pure play foundry. Manufacturing on small substrates made of materials that in short supply and with low volume specialty fabrication processes will not suffice. And Illuma is here to capitalize on this opportunity. The market for optical component technologies and AI infrastructure alone is projected to be several billion dollars within just a few years. And Illumis technology also applies to other high growth market verticals, including defense and aerospace, mobile and consumer electronics, industrial and robotics, to name a few. As we navigate a period of unprecedented demand, customer opportunities continue to expand, fueling our go-to-market plan. How were we executing? To begin, we completed an oversubscribed capital raise which strengthened our no debt balance sheet and boosted our cash to $38 million. With this strong financial position, plus the revenue generated from R&D contracts, we continue to execute our strategic priorities and accelerate our transition to commercialization. Our ongoing R&D contracts reflect our dual-use technology approach to address market needs. We selectively bid on programs to advance technologies important to government customers, but that also have commercial applications in our target markets. This quarter, we signed a new contract with NASA to leverage our scalable semiconductor platform for quantum. Our approach provides a path to low-size weight and power quantum systems making them viable for space-based platforms. Programs like this provide non-dilutive funding for development, while commercial companies evaluate our technology for potential integration. As a reminder, Alumis technology combines best-in-class semiconductor materials with large-volume microelectronics manufacturing. We recently announced that, in collaboration with Thorlabs, We will be delivering a presentation on Aluma's scalable photonics platform at SPIE Photonics West Conference in January. This is the world's largest annual conference and exhibition for optics and photonics technologies, and we look forward to sharing our breakthrough at this prestigious gathering. We will also host a company booth at the exhibition, which is a terrific venue to meet with existing and potential customers and to showcase our technologies. Key to our go-to-market plan is increasing manufacturing readiness. This means qualifying our processes for production. To do so, we have increased wafer fabrication levels at our foundry partners nearly five-fold and made an investment in wafer-scale test capabilities. On the latter, we recently inked an amazing deal to acquire significant capital equipment assets from a major components and solutions provider at nearly one cent on the dollar. Also critical to increasing manufacturing readiness is adding team members to our team. We recently filled important roles, including director of supply chain manufacturing, director of technology enablement, among others, and we continue to recruit in the areas of business development, manufacturing, and operations. I am thrilled at the caliber of applicants we are interviewing. What we are doing at Aluma is attracting elite candidates, and we look forward to adding more talent to the team as we drive our transformative technology forward. The demand for high performance semiconductor components continues to rise, especially for photonic technologies supporting the adoption of AI. It's exciting to see new customer opportunities converging around our vision, growing interest in our technology, and the meaningful impact we're poised to deliver at scale. As we deepen and expand engagements with prospective customers, we're uncovering even greater opportunity aligned with our offerings and product roadmap. This reinforces confidence in our technology, approach, and business model. All pieces are falling in place to create the one plus one equals three value proposition that we believe paints a bright future for Aluma its customers, and its shareholders. Now I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Chris Stewart, to discuss the financials.

Christopher Stewart | CFO

Thanks, Jonathan. Now I will share some highlights of our first quarter fiscal 2026 financial results. We are pleased to report another solid quarter of revenue from our government and commercial contracts. For the quarter ended September 30th, revenue was $1.4 million, compared to $481,000 a year ago and $1.3 million in the prior quarter. GAAP net loss for the first quarter was $1.5 million or $0.09 per share versus a net loss of $730,000 or $0.06 per share in Q1 of last year and a net loss of $859,000 or $0.05 per share in the June quarter. The increase in net loss from the prior quarter was primarily attributable to higher payroll and stock-based compensation expense. Non-GAAP net loss for the quarter was $437,000 or 3 cents per share versus a net loss of 550,000 or 4 cents per share in the first quarter last year and a non-GAAP net loss of 112,000 or 1 cent per share in the June quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a loss of $450,000 compared to a loss of $457,000 for the comparable period last year and a loss of $113,000 in the prior quarter. We ended the first fiscal quarter with $38.1 million in cash and cash equivalents, and we currently have no long-term debt. During the quarter, we closed a follow-on public offering for 1.955 million shares, raising net proceeds of $23.4 million. The capital significantly strengthened our balance sheet more than doubling our cash position. We expect this additional cash will support our plan to transition from exclusively R&D revenue to initial commercial product revenue. Now, turning to our expectations for fiscal 2026, we continue to expect revenue in the range of 4 to 6 million, as we stated in our year end call. For majority of our contracts, revenue is recognized upon achievement of technical milestones. Once again, in the quarter, we hit all of our planned milestones, adding to our impressive track record of timely delivery. That said, revenue may vary quarter to quarter depending on the timing of achieving and receiving customer sign-off on these milestones. We view this R&D revenue as important, non-diluted financing that supports our development efforts and progress towards commercial readiness. As previously discussed, we are highly selective in bidding only on projects we believe will have an impact in our commercial target markets. while our strategic priority for fiscal 2026 is positioning Illuma to begin the transition to commercial product revenue. Going forward, we expect to prudently increase spending as we invest in growth initiatives, including increased production for technology validation and expanding our business development, manufacturing, and operations teams. With our established capital efficient market, we are focusing our investments on what is most critical for an effective transition to commercialization. Several of the industries that we are targeting are poised for significant technology-enabled growth, and we plan to be ready for this major inflection point in the semiconductor industry. Now I'll turn the call back to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Thank you, Chris. The fiscal year is off to a promising start with key objectives already underway. In support of our go-to-market strategy, we've made continued progress to strengthen our financial position, increase our manufacturing readiness, and expand our team. Demand for high-performance semiconductor technology in our key target markets continues to grow, and we believe we'll be in a position to deliver at the scale required by our customers. We look forward to sharing more information with you in the near future. I want to thank our incredible team for their commitment and hard work, and a special thank you to all our investors for your support and enthusiasm that drives us every day. Operator, you can now open the call for questions.

Gary | Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question today comes from David Williams with Benchmark.

Please go ahead. David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Hey, Dylan. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the continued progress here.

Christopher Stewart | CFO

Thanks, David.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Thank you. So, Jonathan, maybe first, last quarter you talked about having, you know, around 20 engagements or so, and just wondering if you could give us an update on how those are progressing and if there's been any that's kind of fallen out of that funnel or if they've progressed and just kind of how you're seeing the funnel of activity today.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Yeah, we've made continued progress with ongoing active engagements, especially in defense and aerospace areas. and AI infrastructure. Defense in aerospace continues to be strong, and we've been advancing engagements in this vertical across the pipeline. Maybe some notable achievements include a recent sample delivery to a key customer, custom NRE work that we're doing in this area related to our imaging sensors. And then sort of in terms of maybe the growth of the pipeline, There are some newer customers in the AI infrastructure space that are evaluating, in particular, high-speed transceiver component technology. So we continue to look at our market verticals broadly, but same as last quarter, there's a particular focus on AI infrastructure, optical component technologies for AI infrastructure, defense and aerospace, and mobile and consumer electronics.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Perfect. Thank you. And then maybe just you talk about your commercial readiness here and that you've, by 5X, increased the wafer to your FAB partners. Can you maybe give us a little bit of an update on where you are and how quickly you can stand up the FABs? If you were to get an order today, how long would it take you before you could have volume kind of production out of your FAB partners?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

So it's, yeah, obviously dependent on specific volume and market vertical and the qualification requirements for that market vertical. But as you mentioned, we are running more and more wafers through our FAB partners now on the order of fivefold, meaning the number of wafers or number of wafer lots that we're running through our FAB partners. The things that we're making at our external FAB partners are primarily detectors for imaging sensors and high-speed components for transceiver applications intended to deploy both in defense and aerospace, but also in AI infrastructure. With the capacity that we have in place now, we could support a reasonable volume, the types of volumes that you'd expect in defense and aerospace, and also in sort of the optical component technologies. For a big consumer market like mobile, or consumer electronics, we'd have to invest additionally in overall capacity.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Okay. Very good. But you feel pretty confident that what you have lined up today, that you can support the probably nearer term type of potential engagements in aerospace and defense and optical?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

That's correct. And, you know, there are several different use cases and formats sort of low to medium speed versions of some of our transceiver components, higher speed versions of our transceiver components, but at least some of them are ready, you know, to deliver for evaluation and ready to qualify for a customer's requirements.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Okay. And on that transceiver side, can you talk a little bit about exactly what your components are, where are you participating, and then how do you Is there a way to kind of size that market if you break it out? And maybe not even breaking it out, but just kind of thinking about the lower speed and mid and maybe even upper speed. But where do you play and what do you think that total market is for you?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

So thanks for asking this, David. One of the reasons I'm so excited about that market is that we're uncovering more and more use cases and architectures We've engaged with some newer customers in that space as recently as the last month or two. And what we're finding is that there's interest and a need for high performance technology for higher speed transceivers, for more traditional pluggable optics formats, just at higher data rates. Some of the component technologies today are very expensive. I still feel very strongly about our business model to deliver high performance semiconductor chips. And I think the margins could be very good there, especially in this market. So again, one of the reasons I'm so excited about that market is that some of our prospective customers are interested in very high performance, high speed components for a few different use cases. Some are interested in sort of lower speed but higher volume and arrays of devices. And then a little bit longer term, you know, co-packaged optics will eventually, you know, start to deploy and see adoption. And some of our high-power laser and quantum dot laser technology could make an impact there. So I'm very excited about sort of near-term prospects as well as, you know, future prospects a few years out.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Okay. Fantastic. And then, you know, kind of going back to the prior question, but as you think about commercialization and how close you are and maybe tipping over some of these engagements, can you kind of talk us through the timeline of when you think you might have something that you might be able to announce in terms of a design win or falsification or something that kind of gives us a trajectory on that revenue opportunity, even if we're looking out into 27 or beyond?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

in the company for the transition to commercialization. And so what that means is really solidifying the relationships with some of our prospective customers and maybe even some of the newer customers that have come to the table in the last couple of months. So in terms of timing, our goal is to get to initial commercial product revenue sometime during this fiscal year. I don't think we're ready to say what the volumes would be, what the prices would be, what the total revenue would be. Chris will answer other questions related to revenue and guidance. Our current revenue is based on bookings and R&D contracts. But what we're doing now is really laying the foundation for commercial scale production. And that means delivering more and more samples to our customers and solidifying relationships that might come in the form of NRE commitments from our customers, and at least some small volume orders, which might initially be for sampling purposes. But the point is, we're ensuring that we're going to be ready when customers are ready to adopt technology and place orders.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Certainly appreciate it. One last one, if I may. Chris, just on the revenue or excuse me, on the balance sheet, you feel pretty comfortable that that will get you to kind of a cash flow or a cash neutral position from your current balance?

Christopher Stewart | CFO

Yeah, there's a lot of dependencies in terms of like how the markets play out and what investments we need to make to support certain customers. But what we've said is we believe we have plenty of cash on the balance sheet to get to that initial revenue. And then we'll see if that gets us all the way to cash flow positive or if we need to make some investments in capacity to support really, really rapid growth.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Thanks so much. I certainly appreciate it. Best of luck on the quarter, gentlemen. Thanks again. Thank you, David.

Gary | Operator

The next question is from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallam.

Please go ahead. Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Well, thanks, Jonathan and Christopher. Let me ask a couple questions here. Jonathan, let's start with one of your early comments here regarding photonics and specifically fast-tracking some work here. Maybe you can elaborate on what exactly this means and probably have a couple of follow-ups on this topic.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

I think our sort of focus areas in optical interconnects for the near term are becoming more and more clear. the more deeply we get engaged in customers and understand the requirements for that market. So fast tracking means dedicating resources to that specific market vertical and a few key prospective customers. And it also means ramping up the manufacturing readiness effort around the components that we're building for that market vertical and the hiring of people that have backgrounds in photonic component technologies for that specific market vertical. So it's a bit of a focused effort. And because of the funding that we've raised, we're able to accelerate and hire people probably faster than initially anticipated. We're able to run more and more wafers at our foundries more than initially anticipated because of the additional resources we have.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay. Jonathan, can you elaborate on what kind of components we're talking about here? You've obviously talked about quantum dots in the past here, which is obviously an emitter of a laser. What about, I think you're alluding to other components here, and I would assume detectors are in that, but any other components that you've also been working on that seem to be grabbing some attention?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Yes, so generally, ALUMA's technologies are emitters and detectors, as you know, for sensing and communication applications. So we work on both emitters and detectors, but we leverage this highly scalable platform to build those components. Quantum dot lasers, there's a lot of interest for that technology, especially for light engines for silicon photonics applications and maybe for some externally modulated lasers in the future. But I think that's a little bit more of a longer term prospect. In the near term, high performance just, you know, emitters and detectors are in very high demand right now. And if you recall, we've been working on high speed detectors initially with the Navy to deploy novel high-speed transceivers for multimode fiber links on aerial platforms. And a different flavor of that could be applied to a few different use cases in the data center market. And without going into too many specific details of exactly what we're doing, there are more than one use case for that technology. And again, this is in part why I'm so excited because slightly different flavors in terms of what the targeted speed performance is, the targeted sensitivity, the targeted format, how many of these detectors and are they arrays of detectors or banks of detectors or individual detectors. These are components that are traditionally somewhat expensive, especially when you get to the higher speeds. And I think Aluma can make a real impact here because of how we do our manufacturing on different substrate platforms that are a lot less expensive and could lead to not only the scale, the higher volume, but also lower cost in the future.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay. That's helpful, Jonathan. Thanks for that perspective. Maybe a couple more questions for me. In the press release, you talked about a goal of, I think, three to seven new development contracts for this year, and you didn't give us any sort of number last quarter, at least that I recall. So maybe you can help us understand where you're expecting some of these to come from. Do you already have visibility into these opportunities with the government or with commercial partners here? And maybe kind of give us more detail there, please.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Yes. So last quarter we said three to seven new contracts, and this quarter we announced a one-time contract with NASA. So that's one of those three to seven. We do have a few pending bids out there that we expect to hear on in the next few months, and we're working on a few more proposals for for a few strategic government contracts. At the same time, we're also in discussions with some of our commercial partners in one case where we're performing on some NRE and discussing sort of a next phase of that work. And we are getting some requests from some of our commercial customers to scope out some NRE work. So I think we'll have more information to share as we go, but at least At this moment, we feel fairly comfortable with the three to seven number. Maybe one other item I'll just add related to that topic. I think eventually what you're going to see is that we're going to start to transition to bigger, you know, contract opportunities, meaning because the transition to commercialization is really our goal, setting the foundation for the transition to commercialization in this fiscal year. That's our highest strategic priority. And so what that means is that we may not bid on some of the smaller government contracts that we have in the past, even though those lead to nice prospective customer engagements and eventually more funding, it could be that we transition to bidding only on sort of larger scale opportunities that feed into our commercial opportunities. And if the commercial business picks up sooner than later, then obviously that's where our focus will be. And I think it's timely because if you think about the change in administration and budget cuts to some of the funding agencies and general slowdown with government funding and the recent government shutdown, it's a good time for us to focus on commercial because There might not be as much government contract funding. Maybe there will be some government funding really to support infrastructure and U.S.-based semiconductor manufacturing, which is what Luma is all about. And moving forward, I mean, our goal was to transition to commercialization, to leverage what we did in terms of developing technology under these R&D contracts. So I think that's sort of the shift that you'll you'll see moving forward. But again, just to come back to your question, we've bid on contracts, a few commercial and several government-funded contracts across agencies, primarily DOD and some NASA and DOE.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay. That's helpful, Jonathan. You partially answered my next question, but I'm going to ask anyway just to make sure there's a more complete answer here. But Just wondering about any impacts from the government shutdown. It sounds like there's been some here. It sounds like maybe this is more slowing down the initial RFQ, RFI process, but how about other contracts that are in process here? Are those being slowed down as well?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

There's been, I mean, the government is shut down now, so it's hard to reach anyone. But there has been some general slowness in terms of new programs getting reviewed and contracts getting executed. We have seen that. It hasn't had a major impact on us because, as you know, we don't heavily rely on that funding. It's been really great to win some of that funding because it's been non-diluted funding, so it's really kept our cash burned down, and it's led to a lot of other things, not only with government customers, but with commercial customers or partners that are supporting us on some of those programs. But generally speaking, yes. I mean, things have been slower than usual. It's taking longer to get a contract signed. And there are some programs out there that we had bid on that got delayed and in some cases canceled and reformatted into something else. But again, we weren't relying on any of those bids in terms of capital needs. or revenue guidance. Everything that we speak of in terms of guidance is based on bookings and some assumptions around the success in delivering on milestones.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay. That sounds great. Thanks for that detail. Last question. I'll jump out of line here. Just asking about the FAB relationships here. The last quarter you talked about engaged with four of them and two more that might possibly enter the fold here. It sounds like that number might might go up here in this in this past quarter if you could update on that and then I guess I'm probably more interested in when a relationship becomes more formalized and contractual and one where you might even announce that Parker I know last quarter you said you're not going to announce them or even give that information out to potential partners until you actually have to but wondering if that's in the in the cards anywhere in the near future thank you so Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO: We haven't formally added any new FAB partners in the last couple of months, but have increased the level of runs, the number of runs that we're doing at several of those FABs. And there are some new activities happening with some supply chain partners. Just to paint the entire picture, you know, one type of partner is a fab that does what we refer to as sort of the front-end fab. We deliver our wafers and devices get fabricated. But there are a few other steps in our process that happen other places. And so we've had to set up a supply chain. There's some, you know, back-end work, some integration work, wafer scale integration work. There's even some tests. So there are a number of partners that we've added to our supply chain. Some of them I might not characterize as a fab. But to answer your question, we may make announcements, but generally at this stage, given the volume of wafers that we're running at our fabs, we'll continue to do that. Maybe as things start to ramp up based on customer demand and we have data that statistical data that we're sharing with customers and we are ready to share information about qualified processes for a specific standard or for a specific customer, that might be a little bit more timely in terms of sharing a little bit more of our supply chain. I mean, generally speaking, you know, photonic component manufacturers don't share a lot of detail on their supply chain. We're certainly gonna try to find creative ways to share different proof points and forms of validation with our shareholders, but being mindful of confidentiality and trade secret information.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay, that makes sense. That is all from you guys, thank you.

Christopher Stewart | CFO

Great, thanks Richard.

Gary | Operator

The next question is a follow-up from David Williams with Benchmark.

Please go ahead. David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

I appreciate you taking the follow-up here. I just wanted to ask, on the optical interconnects on the transceiver side, what is it that's driving your accelerated potential there? Is it an economics perspective? Is it the volume? Is it performance? What exactly, if you kind of look at while your customers are coming to you, what is driving that business there?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Well, the first way I'd answer that question is that that market is really booming right now. And there's a lot of demand, not only now, but expected in the coming years, as I'm sure you know, especially from some recent earnings calls from companies active in that market. So part of it is there's so much activity. Volumes are growing. And as we're growing as a company, we're engaging more and more customers that in some cases are new to our technology and sharing with us slightly different use cases for our technology and some of those end markets. I mean, that's a market that we knew was expected to grow substantially. And one of the reasons, as I mentioned, that we're sort of uh, dedicating lots of resources to that market in terms of customer interactions, business development, uh, and even, you know, the fraction of wafers we're running through our fabs, you know, geared toward transceiver components. The reason that we're doing that is, um, there's more than one use case, uh, and, uh, there's, um, high demand, um, and the component technologies that are needed are, are, um, are, you know, not inexpensive. They're expensive, and customers want more of them, and they'd like to see them at lower cost. So that, you know, really points to manufacturing approaches like Illumis, scaling and reducing cost. And so that's a very exciting market right now where I think, don't quote me on numbers, but I think some of the usual things uh, usual suppliers, um, are, are, you know, seeing significant increase in, in number of chips, uh, deploying in that market for maybe a few million to double digit millions. So it's a very exciting time to see volumes grow for components that are, uh, you know, very high performance in nature in terms of speed performance and, uh, and other specifications.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Great. Then when you engage with the customer in that supply chain or in the optical side, are you engaging at the customer level? So would it be with an NVIDIA or the hyperscalers, or is it more in the module or OEM side? Just kind of where do you typically engage within that?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Across all levels of that value chain. As you know, that industry has gone through lots of changes in the last decade or so, and so the hyperscalers are deeply involved in the supply chain. That used to be different when Ciscos of the world would buy components. Component suppliers were not making so much margin, and so component suppliers said, maybe we need to start making modules. But then the higher-level customers made investments in contract manufacturing and packaging and assembly. And so hyperscalers are deeply involved in technology definition and supply chain. And the good news for Aluma is what that means for component suppliers is that chip suppliers can – can benefit from a fairly profitable business. And so that's one of the reasons that we're, you know, so excited about that market. Very high-end chips that not so many companies in the world know how to make. And Aluma has an opportunity to scale, deliver the performance, and bring costs down.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

And just one last question here, I promise. But just was going to ask, if you can kind of walk through, you talked earlier about the low lower data rates the mid and the upper end but what is it that's kind of drawing you in and can you maybe speak to the components where you're seeing the most the pull ends on that on the low end we would suspect that your high performance would be at the very upper end but that we think it's interesting uh that you talked about the low end there so maybe just some color around the low and mid the range and why you're being pulled in there i mean generally speaking i i've i've said that Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO: you know, we're identifying more and more use cases in the data center market. So if you think about AI clusters and short reach and higher speed and how you get there, and I'm sure you know what companies are doing, in some cases developing new technologies for short reach, but, you know, very high aggregate data rates. But, you know, outside of you know, short reach for compute clusters like that. Hyperscalers need more and more optics for rack to rack. And, you know, generally, you know, switch ASICs are increasing. There's been really nice announcements from Broadcom and others, you know, 100 terabit switches. So sort of across the board, there's more and more demand for high-performance transceiver components, you know, meaning higher volumes coming whether it's short reach, a few meters out to 100 meters, or sort of in the middle, up to a few kilometers, and maybe even longer. I would say most of the use cases where we're seeing interest in our technology are mostly around sort of the short and mid-reach, few meters out to maybe 100 meters, and then from there to maybe a couple of kilometers. And without going into too much detail, you know, formats of transceivers, whether it's pluggables or efforts being made to put optics on boards, you know, that's what we see really growing in the near term. Co-packaged optics is something many companies and fabs are investing in, and I think that's coming, you know, that'll slowly get adopted. And we have technology that that's applicable there as well, like the quantum dot lasers, for example, are a good fit, especially in the co-packaged optics world. So I'm just very enthusiastic about that end market because there's near-term demand, near-term growth, and expected long-term growth, especially as things like co-packaged optics start to get adopted over the next few years.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark

Thanks again.

Certainly appreciate it. Gary | Operator

Thanks, David. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jonathan Clampkin for any closing remarks.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder & CEO

Thank you. We look forward to connecting at investor conferences and other meetings in the future. Thank you for joining and have a great day.

Gary | Operator

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Research summary and source transcript

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Aeluma reported strong FY2025 revenue growth to $4.7 million, driven by government R&D contracts, and ended the year with $15.7 million in cash and no debt. Management emphasized progress in technology validation, IP generation, and customer engagement, with 20 active commercial prospects and plans to double headcount in FY2026 to support commercialization. However, the company remains pre-revenue in commercial markets, with all current revenue tied to R&D contracts, and no near-term commercial revenue guidance was provided.

Management knows today that the company has achieved technical feasibility and market credibility through government partnerships (DARPA, NASA, Navy), has 20 active commercial engagements across defense/aerospace, AI infrastructure/data center interconnects, and mobile/consumer electronics, and is building a business development team to convert these engagements into commercial revenue—information the market will not fully reflect for 6-24 months as these prospects move through qualification and production stages. The transition from R&D to commercial revenue is the key inflection point not yet priced in.

Government R&D contract revenue, technology validation through customer engagements, and scalability via foundry and supply chain partnerships.

  • Transition from R&D to commercial revenue in FY2026
  • 20 active commercial engagements with prospective customers
  • Government partnerships (DARPA, NASA, Navy, DOE) as non-dilutive funding and validation
  • Building business development and go-to-market teams
  • Supply chain and fab partner expansion for manufacturing readiness
  • Capital efficiency and low cash burn model
  • Description of technology as 'game-changing' and 'disruptive' with potential to force industry-wide adoption
  • Excitement about 20 active customer engagements and pipeline growth
  • Pride in NASDAQ uplisting, Russell 3000 and MSCI inclusion, and closing bell ceremony
  • Enthusiasm about quantum, optical interconnects, and imaging sensor applications
  • Confidence in supply chain partners and ability to scale via external fabs

Management displayed a confident, direct, and credible tone throughout the call. CEO Jonathan Clampkin and CFO Christopher Stewart provided specific, consistent answers to detailed questions about technology readiness, customer engagement stages, supply chain capabilities, and financial trends. They avoided vague optimism, instead grounding excitement in measurable progress—such as revenue growth, cash position, patent count, and customer engagement stages—while acknowledging uncertainties in timing and commercial conversion. Their willingness to discuss NDA constraints, fab partner variability, and milestone-based revenue recognition enhanced credibility.

  • No clear dodged analyst question was detected by the local fallback; manual review should still check whether Q&A answers quantified conversion, margins, and guidance.
  • There may be a benchmark or metric-framing issue worth manual review, especially around adjusted metrics, timelines, or changed expectations.

The company appears to be in a strong early-positioned stance in niche semiconductor markets (optical interconnects, quantum-enabled CMOS, imaging sensors) with validated technology, government backing, and active customer engagement. While no direct competitors were named, the emphasis on disruptive potential and industry-wide adoption suggests a first-mover advantage in specific compound semiconductor applications. However, competitive positioning cannot be fully assessed without visibility into rival technologies or customer adoption rates.

  • FY2025 revenue: $4.7 million, above prior guidance of $4.4–$4.6 million
  • Q4 FY2025 revenue: $1.3 million, up from $279,000 in Q4 FY2024
  • Cash and cash equivalents: $15.7 million as of June 30, 2025, up from $1.3 million year-over-year
  • Net cash used in operating activities: $1.1 million in FY2025 vs. $3.5 million in FY2024
  • Adjusted EBITDA: $186,000 for FY2025 vs. -$3.5 million in FY2024
  • Public offering proceeds: $13.8 million gross proceeds from NASDAQ uplisting
  • Conversion of 20 active engagements into commercial revenue in FY2026
  • Announcement of first high-volume supply chain or fab partnership
  • Revenue milestone from AI infrastructure/data center interconnect contracts
  • Doubling of headcount and OPEX to support commercialization efforts
  • Successful qualification or design win with a Tier 1 supplier or OEM
  • No commercial revenue generated to date; all revenue remains R&D contract-based
  • Uncertainty in timing and conversion of 20 customer engagements to paid orders
  • Dependence on government contracts for near-term funding and validation
  • Execution risk in scaling manufacturing via external fab partners
  • Potential delays in customer adoption due to disruptive technology requiring system redesign
  • Limited operating history as a public company post-uplisting

Management explicitly linked the company's optical interconnect technology to AI infrastructure and data center interconnects, noting discussions with Tier 1 suppliers about integration for AI infrastructure and describing the market as a 'few million unit per year opportunity.' They highlighted co-packaged optics and massively parallel optical interconnects as inflection points in the industry, positioning their technology as a potential enabler for AI-driven data center growth. This represents a direct and strategic near-term market focus, not speculative.

  • What specific milestones must be met for the 20 active engagements to progress to qualification and production stages?
  • What is the expected timeline and revenue potential from the first commercial design win?
  • How will the doubled headcount in FY2026 be allocated between business development, R&D, and operations?
  • What are the criteria for selecting new fab partners, and when might a high-volume supply chain agreement be announced?
  • What portion of FY2026 revenue guidance is expected to come from new vs. existing government contracts?
  • How does management define 'commercial readiness' and what internal metrics will signal its achievement?

FY2025 Q4 earnings call transcript

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NASDAQ:ALMU Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript Generated on 6/8/2026 Gary | Conference Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Illuma's fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Tony Rossi, investor relations for Illuma.

Please go ahead. Tony Rossi | Investor Relations, Illuma

Thanks, Gary. Good afternoon and welcome to Aluma's fourth quarter in year-end 2025 earnings call. I'm here today with founder and CEO Jonathan Clampkin and CFO Christopher Stewart. Today's discussions and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the earnings press release issued today, along with the reports filed with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. These reports, along with today's earnings release, can be found under the Investors section of our website. Voluma assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Throughout the discussion, the company will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in our earnings press release and SEC filings. Now I'll turn the call over to Illumis CEO, Jonathan Clampkin. Jonathan?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you, Tony. I would like to begin by welcoming everyone to Illumis' first conference call as a NASDAQ-listed company. I would especially like to acknowledge our two new covering analysts, Richard Shannon from Craig Hallam and David Williams from Benchmark Equity Research. Thank you all for joining. I'm excited to highlight what our team accomplished in fiscal 2025 and the bright future we see ahead. I'm also excited to have our new CFO, Christopher Stewart, join me today on our conference call debut. By way of introduction, Chris brings over 20 years of financial leadership experience at high-growth technology companies. Chris has the strategic and financial perspective needed to scale Illuma through its next stage of growth. Let me begin by sharing that we have an incredibly successful year executing on our plan. We consistently perform on our R&D contracts while still having a relatively small team consisting primarily of R&D personnel. Looking ahead, with confidence in our technology's capabilities and relevance, we are building a critically important business development and go-to-market team to accelerate our engagements in target commercial markets. Interest in our technology has never been higher. We count 20 active engagements with prospective customers, including OEMs, Tier 1 and Tier 2 suppliers, system integrators, and chip manufacturers that are evaluating our technology for potential integration in future generation products. I believe that we are approaching an inflection point when our game-changing technology will be ready for commercial adoption, aligning with the growing demand for high-performance semiconductors across a wide array of applications and industries. For those new to the Illumistory, we started with a simple but powerful concept. Semiconductors are everywhere, and they can be better. We believed that if you could take the highest performance semiconductor materials and innovate ways to manufacture them at scale, the impact across industries would be transformational. This was no easy feat. The modern semiconductor industry has been around for over 70 years, and yet successfully scaling compound semiconductors, which are higher performing materials made from two or more elements, has remained elusive. Fast forward, following extensive R&D, 30 issued and pending patents, and the numerous trade secrets, our team has seemingly cracked the code. Our proprietary technology is sufficiently compelling that we have attracted key government agencies like DARPA, NASA, and the Navy to support us to advance these next-generation semiconductors for mission-critical applications. These partnerships have brought non-dilutive capital for strategic R&D that has enabled technical feasibility and provided market credibility. In this regard, the term dual-use technology comes to mind, addressing the demanding requirements for government or defense while also creating value in commercial markets. Developing technology for mission-driven systems and subsequently scaling it for commercial deployment is not a new concept, but it is core to our strategic approach. And until now, this commercial scaling of compound semiconductors has been rather limited. Leveraging our transformative technology, we have been purposefully bidding on R&D contracts to further innovation, grow our reputation, and advance our goal to commercialize in target markets. For example, we have been collaborating with the U.S. Navy to apply Illumiz Optical Interconnect technology to aircraft to help move large amounts of information quickly between sensors and onboard computers. This core technology is highly adaptable to data center interconnects for AI infrastructure, where it can enable high-speed transfer of massive data sets between compute nodes. In fact, we're engaged in discussions with several Tier 1 suppliers exploring the integration of our technology for AI infrastructure. We're also collaborating with the Department of Energy and the Navy to advance Illuma's imaging sensor technology for critical systems to enable them to see beyond what is visible to the human eye. Our technology not only meets their rigorous requirements, but it can also be adapted for broader applications in our target markets, including mobile devices, consumer electronics, industrial automation, robotics, and autonomous systems. Several Tier 1 suppliers and OEMs across these markets are actively evaluating our technology. To this end, we have attracted significant interest from prospective customers, and our pipeline of opportunity is growing. Several third parties have validated our technology through sample evaluations, and we have active engagements with 20 prospective customers. We expect our future business development team to advance these engagements across our funnel and to increase the pipeline to approximately double the number of commercial revenue growth opportunities over the next fiscal year. Here's how we size up the opportunity and how we are positioned to capitalize on it. We believe our technology is poised to become indispensable across the semiconductor industry. As one senior tech leader from a major tier one supplier put it, If Aluma succeeds, the entire industry will have to manufacture this way. That's the very definition of a disruptive technology, and Aluma has the platform to accelerate adoption across numerous markets. Based on market research and internal analysis, we estimate our SAM, the market segments that our technology addresses, could reach $4.9 billion by 2030, growing at a 48% compound annual growth rate from a base of $1 billion in 2026. Coming back to Illumistory. With substantial momentum in technology advancement, IP generation, supply chain development, and customer traction, we were ready for a bigger public stage. On March 28th, we announced both our uplisting to NASDAQ and the closing of an oversubscribed public offering with $13.8 million in gross proceeds to pursue significant growth opportunities we see in commercial markets. We are also proud to be an early advocate of restoring American leadership in semiconductors. In addition to the reshoring of semiconductors aimed at incentivizing increased U.S. semiconductor manufacturing, we believe it is critically important to protect American innovation, a core principle at Illuma, where from our headquarters in California, we have established a one-of-a-kind R&D and manufacturing capability. On May 1st, we rang the closing bell at NASDAQ to celebrate our uplisting. This was a proud milestone for our team, our board, and our shareholders. Building from this, we were recently added to the Russell 3000 Index and MSCI Global Micro Cap Index, providing additional visibility and opportunity as a public company, as well as increased liquidity for our trading partners. To summarize our strong financial position, we have $15.7 million in cash and cash equivalents, no debt, and a solid portfolio of contracts to support R&D and commercialization in fiscal 2026. With our capital life manufacturing model, we believe Aluma is positioned to scale quickly and effectively to address mass market opportunities. In our early days, we concentrated on building our IP portfolio and our R&D and manufacturing capabilities. Now that we have a strong foundation in place, we are expanding our business development capabilities to focus on commercial market opportunities. Our efforts in fiscal 2026 are aimed at establishing the foundation to transition from R&D revenue to commercial product revenue. We attracted new talent to our technical team, and we're fortunate to have Chris join our executive leadership. We recently ramped up wafer fabrication activities with our foundry partners and added equipment to support prototyping and test and validation. We are also seeing momentum building in defense and aerospace, data center interconnects for AI infrastructure, and mobile and consumer electronics, and markets with significant growth potential for Aluma. Our partnerships with government agencies continue to strengthen, and we recently announced New wins, including contracts with NASA, the U.S. Navy, and the Department of Energy. These programs will advance Illumis semiconductor platform for quantum systems, optical interconnects, and imaging sensors. We are also engaged directly with major defense tech companies that are evaluating our technology for mission-critical systems applications. We unveiled the manufacturing breakthrough in collaboration with Thor Labs, advancing quantum enabling capabilities with Illumis CMOS-compatible semiconductor platform, which is scalable to 300-millimeter wafers, today's industry standard used by leading semiconductor fests. This innovation supports commercial scalability and positions us to accelerate adoption of quantum systems. Beyond our ongoing R&D work with government agencies, we're actively engaged with a leading quantum company to explore integration of our technology. Tying it all together, Illumis technology is being considered for many of today's most exciting growth sectors. Shortwave infrared sensors for 3D imaging and health monitoring, optical interconnects that transmit data seamlessly using light, and quantum systems that will usher in a new era of high-performance computing. These are very exciting times, and Illuma is where the future is headed. Now, I'll turn the call over to our new CFO, Chris Stewart, to discuss the financials.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Thanks, Jonathan. First, I want to say that I'm thrilled to be at Illuma. The company is making great progress with its game-changing technology, And I really look forward to working with this talented team as we continue to build on our strong financial foundation and make the transition from R&D to commercialization. Now I'll share some highlights of our fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results. We are pleased to report another strong quarter of revenue from our government and commercial research and development contracts. For the quarter ending June 30th, we reported revenue of $1.3 million compared to $279,000 in the same quarter of 2024 and $1.3 million in the third quarter of 2025. Revenue for the full fiscal year was $4.7 million, slightly above the high end of our previous guidance of $4.4 to $4.6 million. This compares to $919,000 for fiscal 2024. GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter was $859,000, or 5 cents per share, versus a net loss of $989,000, or 8 cents per share, for the comparable period last year. On a sequential basis, GAAP net income for the third quarter was $1.5 million, or 12 and 11 cents per basic and diluted share. The change in net income from the prior quarter was primarily due to a $2.6 million one-time non-cash gain in the fair value of derivative liabilities recorded in the third quarter. Non-GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter was $112,000, or one cent per share, compared to a GAAP net income of $7,000, or break-even on a per-share basis in the prior quarter, and a loss of $817,000, or seven cents per share, in the comparable period last year. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter ended June 30, 2025 was a loss of $113,000 compared to a loss of $718,000 in the same quarter last year and a gain of $109,000 in the prior quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the year was $186,000 compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $3.5 million for fiscal 2024. The year-over-year improvement in adjusted EBITDA was primarily due to the $3.7 million increase in revenue. We closed the fourth quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $15.7 million in cash and crash equivalents, compared to $1.3 million as of June 30, 2024, and $15.9 million as of March 31, 2025. We were fortunate to have a low cash burn model. Sorry. We currently have no debt, and given the near balance of revenue and operating expense in fiscal 2025, we were fortunate to have a low cash burn model. Our net cash used in operating activities was $1.1 million in fiscal 2025, compared to $3.5 million in fiscal 2024. Now, turning to our expectations for fiscal 2026, Illuma expects revenue in the range of approximately $4 to $6 million, primarily from new and existing government and commercial R&D contracts. For most of these contracts, revenue is recognized on achievement of program milestones. The timing of reaching these milestones can lead to quarter-to-quarter variability in our revenue. We view this revenue as important non-diluted financing that supports our development efforts to progress our technology toward commercial readiness. Given our disruptive technology and shifting more of our focus to commercialization, We are highly selective with these engagements, bidding only on projects we believe will have broad commercial appeal in our target markets. Going forward, we expect to gradually increase spending as we invest in growth initiatives, including increased wafer fab production and expanding our business development, operation, and technical teams. We expect to approximately double headcount over the course of fiscal 2026 and expect our expenses to increase accordingly. We are extremely proud of our accomplishments to date, especially the speed with which our small team has transitioned from idea to validation, revenue generation, and customer traction, all while being prudent with our resources and increasing shareholder value. With our historically capital efficient model, we plan to increase investment in areas that we believe will position us to benefit from exciting opportunities we see for our technology. Our momentum continues to build as we lay the groundwork to effectively transition to commercialization and a critical time when several of our target market industries are poised for significant technology-enabled growth. Now I'll turn the call back to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you, Chris. We are extremely encouraged by the confidence our current and prospective customers have in our technology, our ability to deliver, and by the huge opportunities ahead of us across multiple industries. We are deeply committed to our mission, which is to deliver the world's highest performing semiconductors, and to our business model, which combines cutting-edge IT with capital-like manufacturing. We anticipate that fiscal 2026 will be a year of considerable progress in value creation. Our priorities are to execute on our R&D contracts while also accelerating the development of our commercial opportunities across several large and exciting markets. Our objectives are aimed to best position us to capitalize on the large market opportunities we expect over the next few years and to drive toward long-term profitable growth. These include building our business development and go-to-market team by hiring experienced and connected leaders in our target markets, while also investing in our production capabilities to advance manufacturing readiness. Following our uplisting to NASDAQ, we are also committed to having a best practices, investor relations program, and we recently engaged financial profiles to help us communicate the Illumist story to a larger universe of potential investors. We will be participating in several upcoming investor conferences, including the LB Micro Conference in San Diego in October and the Craig Hallam Alpha Select Conference in New York City in November. We look forward to seeing some of you at these events. Lastly, I would like to thank our incredible team, our shareholders, and our customers for joining us on our journey to reshape semiconductor manufacturing for future generation systems. Operator, you can now open the call for questions.

Gary | Conference Operator

Thank you. The first question is from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallam.

Please go ahead. Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Well, great. Thanks, Jonathan and Chris. Great to be on your first conference call. Thanks for having me on here to ask a few questions. I think I'm going to start with the first one regarding your guidance for this year here and trying to understand the assumptions built in here. So Chris, I heard your comments about This is including both new and existing government-related contracts. Maybe you could help us understand to the extent to which you're expecting new contracts coming in here versus just the baseline of the ones you've had in fiscal 25.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Yeah, our guidance is really focused mainly on contracts that we have either already signed or are near signing. but we are working on additional contracts. We're being somewhat conservative with our guidance as the timing of meeting the milestones to achieve revenue and signing these contracts is a little bit unclear. But the key thing from our perspective is You know, we're really focused on the transition to commercial this year. So, again, you know, the revenue is great. We consider it non-diluted financing, funding our R&D. But, you know, we're trying to shift our focus more to being commercial ready, increasing our production capabilities, and engaging on the commercial side. So that's a little bit about, you know, where the guidance is coming from.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay, that is helpful, Chris. Thanks for that. And I'll take your cue to maybe talk more on the commercial side here. So you talked about 20 engagements. You mentioned, I think, a few different end markets here. I guess I'd love to have you elaborate a little bit more, maybe in a few different areas. First of all, what are some of the new engagements and which markets they're in? And then I think probably the area that a lot of people are interested in here is which markets do you think are going to get to some sort of commercial agreement here sooner rather than later?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Great. Thanks, Richard. Maybe I'll take that one. One thing I'll mention is that our near-term commercial focus is defense and aerospace, which, as you know, is typically a lower volume but high margin market, AI infrastructure, including data center interconnects, which is a large volume market, typically in the sort of millions of units per year, and then mobile and consumer electronics, which is very large volume, typically tens of millions of units per year. As you likely know, our technology is broadly applicable, so there are other markets that we're active in, such as automotive, industrial and robotics, and even quantum computing and communications. But those we see as slightly longer term revenue opportunities. The first three I mentioned are where our focus is today.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay, fair enough. Thanks for that. Let me ask a question. You talked about winning, I think, three to seven government development-related contracts this year. Maybe if you can quantify what the potential of revenue is from these contracts you have visibility into to give us a sense of potential scale here, and then any way to help us understand in what areas they might be focused on to be great.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Maybe I can start with areas to focus on. So, as Chris mentioned, we have historically been somewhat selective of government contracts that we bid on, bidding only on programs that are very synergistic with our technology, and where we see synergies with commercial applications. And moving forward, we're probably being even more selective with those contracts. So most likely no new major areas outside of traditional sort of image sensing applications, 3D imaging, and communications applications, because that's where we see lots of synergy with commercial market opportunities. And Chris, I don't know if you want to add.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

No, I just say in terms of the size of the contracts, they really vary. You know, if you've probably seen, you know, we've had contracts as big as, $11 million over three years and as small as a couple hundred thousand dollars. And, you know, the ones that we're bidding on today are, you know, just like the priced ones. They're all over the place. Not quite as big as the biggest, but in that range.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay. That's helpful perspective. Let me ask one more question. I'll jump out of line here. So also in your press release, you talked about one of the strategic priorities for this year. about enhanced manufacturing readiness and specifically expanding supply chain partnerships. My specific question here is I think one of the key aspects of this is establishing an external high volume founder relationship here and just want to get a sense of when we might expect to see that announced.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Well, what I can say is we have engagements currently with four fabs, meaning we've delivered wafers to those four fabs for development and to fabricate small volumes of our product offerings. And we're also in discussions with two other prospective fab partners. And as you know, our supply chain also includes partners for things like test assembly, integration, and packaging. You know, under NDA, if justified by a business opportunity with a customer, we have disclosed our FAB partners to some prospective customers, but disclosing such supply chain information prematurely may limit our opportunities because FABs are competitors with one another, and prospective customers have preferred boundaries. So I would say while we're not entirely opposed to disclosing supply chain information, such disclosures, you know, should be made by us opportunistically. For example, if a particular FAB relationship is to be leveraged to deliver technology to a customer. And maybe I'll just close by saying, you know, the weight for capacity of our FAB partners varies. Some FAB partners are small volume FABs. Some are very large volumes. And our BAT partners are primarily in the U.S.

strategically. Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay. That's very helpful detail, Jonathan. I will jump on the line.

Thank you. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you, Richard.

Gary | Conference Operator

The next question is from David Williams with Benchmark.

Please go ahead. David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions, and congrats on the really solid progress here. Thank you, David. Thanks, David. Yeah. lot of the higher level, but I want to ask maybe if we think about, you know, if you had, say, a 1 million unit order, you said in the past that it would qualify as maybe a low to mid volume, but what could we expect in terms of maybe a revenue opportunity, kind of thinking about your ASPs and the different markets, but I'm just trying to understand the magnitude of what even a small order could look like in terms of revenues.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

I so maybe I'll make a couple of comments one relates to sort of those three sort of near-term primary market focuses for us the defense and aerospace which tends to be lower volume but very high margin market and we see lots of growth in that market the AI infrastructure data center interconnects we're seeing a lot of activity there and interest in our technology as well and that's sort of a few million unit per year opportunity. And then the sort of more volatile market is the mobile and consumer electronics, where volumes are extremely high, tens of millions per year, more cost sensitive, but we see an appetite to adopt new technology and a willingness to pay a little bit more for this chip technology, at least in the near term until, you know, volumes increase and and cost to come down. But it might be worth making a comment just on how we sort of progress through the business development funnel and kind of where we are so that maybe we could set some expectations for timing and scale of some of these opportunities. So a typical progression for us are starting with discovery, targeting customers and having initial meetings, technology evaluation this is where we might need to follow meetings with an NDA so that we can have more in-depth technical and business discussion we share proprietary information and our prospective customers share desired specifications and then maybe request samples to evaluate and test to validate our data and then NRE or custom development where we're generating prototypes for the customer toward meeting their customer specifications. And we're at various stages of those first few steps of the supply chain with those 20 prospective customers that I mentioned. What comes next is qualification. That's when you'd expect the design win, and now you're qualifying the production in unison with your customer, and then eventually production, in production for, intended product delivery. So, again, if I look at the 20 active engagements, we're in steps one, two, and three with those prospective customers. And it's really when we're at the later stage when a customer makes a commitment and wants to move to the qualification stage that we might be able to provide more information on scale and volumes in the near term versus long term.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

Really great color there. So I guess in the near term, if we look out over the next 12 months, how likely do you think it could be if you could have something that can move fairly quickly? Because it seems like on the mobile side, maybe it moves more quickly on the cycle as opposed to maybe AMD that takes longer. But it seems like on the mobile, you could potentially grab something maybe a little earlier. Is that fair?

Yeah. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

I think mobile and consumer electronics I would quantify as a very volatile market that can grow very quickly, but timings are typically less clear. So we tend not to provide guidance on when we expect a significant commercial engagement in mobile. It doesn't mean that we're not engaged with prospective customers across the supply chain in that market. Defense and aerospace is quite a bit more stable. There's lots of activity there. Much of our revenue comes from government agencies, specifically geared toward defense and aerospace applications, and we have active engagements with defense and aerospace tech companies that are sampling and evaluating our technology, and they seemingly could move faster. And then sort of the third focus market for us, the AI infrastructure and data center interconnect, That's a market that exists, but is starting to adopt some new technologies to enable the growth that is expected and required. So things like co-packaged optics and massively parallel optical interconnects. So there's sort of an inflection point happening in that industry, and that's usually the best time to engage and have those customers adopt the new technologies. So what excites us about Illumis technology and market focus is that if we just look at those three primary near-term focuses, you sort of cover the entire gamut of something that's very stable in near-term, something that's fastly growing and happening, and something that could be huge in volumes but is a bit more volatile. So we could sort of find a balance across those different market protocols to ensure that we're capitalizing in the near-term but also building very very good value in the long term.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

Great. Appreciate the color there. And then maybe just kind of think about your resources and how constrained you've been, very selective on those products. But as you double your head count, especially on the engineering side, should we expect that you can take on more of these opportunities? And is there a way to kind of think about how many of those that come to you that you're moving forward with as opposed to maybe what you're not moving forward with?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Yeah, that's a good question. I would say that it's good to remind everyone that we do have a small team and resources are limited. So we have been very selective, both with government contracts that we bid on, but I should say also with commercial opportunities. We try to focus on where we see near-term revenue opportunities and where there are synergies with our technology. What I would say is that as headcount grows, we are going to leverage the additional resources to focus on the commercial revenue opportunities. So if we had a bigger team, we could bid on more government contracts, but that's not the primary focus moving forward.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

Okay, thanks. And then maybe just one last one for me here, but if, say, you had an order, if you were at the end of maybe that design cycle and you secured an order, how quickly could you ramp to maybe a mid-volume if you got the order today? Is that something you do in six months because you've done a lot of work on the supply chain, or is that a longer maybe design cycle or a longer time to production?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

So I think it depends a bit on the market vertical and the requirements, but we have established small to medium volume processes. And so in the near term, reasonable volumes, even upwards of a million units, we could certainly support in the near term. The larger volumes that you might expect in mobile and consumer electronics, we could support maybe the front end of a program, but we're going to need to rely heavily on our supply chain partners because we don't intend to scale by adding lots more equipment in-house. We're going to scale by leveraging the capabilities of our partners. So hopefully that answers your question. In the near term, we're confident that we could deliver relatively quickly for sort of small to medium volumes, and we're making investments with supply chain partners to ensure that we can deliver on the higher volume markets thereafter.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

Is it fair to assume that you feel fairly comfortable with the progress you've made, and if you did have, say, a high-volume order, that you would be able to bring those or stand up that FAB partners quickly enough to fulfill that?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

I feel confident in the status of the technology and in the supply chain partners that we've selected. They seem committed to the technology. They see lots of opportunity to adopt this technology for companies even other markets that we're not necessarily pursuing. And as I mentioned, you know, four current FAB partners, which is important to, you know, to have multiple suppliers or partners in your supply chain. Four FAB partners, multiple suppliers of substrates, multiple vendors that support packaging and integration, and so on.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

All right, very good. And lastly, Chris, just wanted to say congratulations and looking forward to working with you.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Thanks, same here. Great to have you.

Appreciate it. Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you for the questions.

Gary | Conference Operator

The next question is a follow-up from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallam.

Please go ahead. Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Well, hi, guys. Thanks for letting me ask a quick follow-on here, probably more for Chris. So I want to get a sense of how to think about OPEX throughout this year. You talked about doubling headcount, and I think your comment was a commensurate amount of growth on the OpEx side here. Just any way you can quantify how we should think about that going throughout the year. And then using that as a proxy for ultimately thinking about what kind of cash burn that you're expecting within the context of this $46 million sales guide for the year.

Thank you. Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Right. So, yeah, so like we said, we're expecting to give or take double headcount over the course of the year. Our spending, you know, really today is largely headcount driven. So as we add headcount gradually over the year, our expenses are going to drift up. Our non-headcount spending, a lot of that is FAB related as we run wafers through our FAB partners. And that we're going to be increasing through the year. But also, I wouldn't look for any major step functions. I would look at it as a gradual increase over the course of the year. You know with revenue, you know where it's at, you know, I think you'll see a slight uptick in burn but again You know, it's going to be gradual and we're we're doing things in a very measured way meaning You know, we're adding the right headcount or we're being selective Waiting till we find the right people and we're kind of reading the signals within the market and trying to kind of react accordingly and make sure we have a the team in place to capitalize on the opportunities we have. We did talk a little bit about our priorities. Today, I just remind everyone today, we don't have a business development team, so we are going to be definitely looking to build out that business development team this year, as well as expanding our R&D teams and our operations teams to really, again, this year, a lot of this year is about positioning us to make that transition from pure R&D to commercial.

Richard Shannon | Analyst, Craig Hallam

Okay, great, guys. That's all for me. I'll jump out of line.

Christopher Stewart | CFO, Illuma

Thank you.

Thanks very much. Gary | Conference Operator

The next question is a follow-up from David Williams with Benchmark.

Please go ahead. David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

We've got to keep you on your toes to keep you busy, so I appreciate the follow-up here. But one other quick one I wanted to ask is, Jonathan, you alluded to this earlier, but how do you think about where your technology progress is today? And is there anything that you think is standing in the way, or is it simply just adoption from the customer side? So is it fair to say that we've done all the heavy lifting and now it really is just that commercial adoption is where we are?

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thanks for the question. Yeah, I think it's important to recognize that we've developed a disruptive technology. Very happy with the progress we've made over the last few years. But this is a disruptive technology. It's not sort of an off-the-shelf, like we're making something just a little different than someone else already. So when you have such a disruptive technology that can really impact multiple markets, that requires a commitment from customers. You know, this is for future generation systems. Again, not a direct replacement of an existing component in a system that's already in production. So it's all about aligning the timing here, like advancing our go-to-market strategy with the new BizDev team, progressing the engagements across the stages of the funnel to really get those solid foundational commitments from the customers. that we've maybe already done custom development for. They've adopted the technology. It's not always clear to us the timing. When do they want to integrate this technology into the next generation products? But, you know, biz dev and go to market is critical for us. And then also advancing the production capacity so that we're ready to deliver at scale. I think we're at a stage where there's enough excitement and enthusiasm and interest in our technology. It's matured to a level that's meeting the requirements of many of our customers and prospective customers. And so it makes sense at this time to start to make investments to really scale, to be running more and more wafers through our foundries, you know, to really qualify the processes and ensure that they're ready when the customers, you know, ask us to deliver at scale.

David Williams | Analyst, Benchmark Equity Research

Fantastic. Thanks so much. Again, appreciate it. Best of luck on the quarter.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Thank you very much.

Gary | Conference Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jonathan Clampkin for any closing remarks.

Jonathan Clampkin | Founder and CEO, Illuma

Jonathan Clampkin Yeah, I'd like to thank everyone for joining our inaugural conference call, and we look forward to reporting on our progress on our first quarter call.

Thank you. Gary | Conference Operator

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